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27 Sep 2009 06:12 AM  
Wait a minute?
there were two pairs with similar effects and I could not distinguish those

You mean like morphine and oxycodone? You can't even keep your story straight within the same short thread.
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27 Sep 2009 06:39 AM  
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27 Sep 2009 07:37 AM  

Anita alleges that she told her pyschiatrist about her alleged medical accuracy, but explained it away saying that it was probably due to knowledge gained by working three years in a nursing home. Anita alleges that she came to school in the USA to be an osteopathic physician. And yet it's some paranormal ability that she recalls the effects of common medications?

Anita, sweetheart, you're wrong about morphine being a blood thinner. Your "citation" is just some knucklehead telling another knucklehead not to take morphine before getting a tatoo. Reliable sources make no mention of morphine being a blood thinner. In fact, some make it a point out to note what it doesn't do
 

Morphine has little direct effect on the heart or blood pressure. How ever the blood pressure may fall slightly following the pain relief produced by morphine and also with the sedation which may be produced. Significant hypotension following morphine is usually due to other causes such as hypovolaemia.



Codeine is widely known to be a painkiller. It has also been sold over the counter as a cough suppressant for who knows how many years. Oxycodone, like codeine and hydrocodone, is a painkiller and cough suppressant. They are are widely prescribed and have been for years. Spammers have sent billions of e-mails trying to sell the stuff.

The notion that any of this information was unknown to you is utterly ridiculous. There's nothing special going on here except your ability to concoct fantasies around the ordinary.


 

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27 Sep 2009 07:56 AM  

Anecdotal evidence: My husband had a heart valve replaced the cardiologist/surgeon would have put him on morphine except that my husband is allergic to it. The morphine would have been given along with Coumadin which is a very strong blood thinner. Once again, Anita, you are wrong.

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27 Sep 2009 06:52 PM  
Posted By Audible Click on 26 Sep 2009 11:56 PM

Anecdotal evidence: My husband had a heart valve replaced the cardiologist/surgeon would have put him on morphine except that my husband is allergic to it. The morphine would have been given along with Coumadin which is a very strong blood thinner. Once again, Anita, you are wrong.

Exactly. I've taken Coumadin on and off all my life because of a major congenital heart defect, and I am always prescribed morphine when I need a painkiller, since I am allergic to codeine. I've never yet had a doctor tell me I couldn't take the two together because morphine "thins the blood".

She'll say anything for attention, but even with the Internet right smack in front of her, she's too dense to check the facts.

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27 Sep 2009 08:51 PM  
Posted By bookitty on 26 Sep 2009 10:06 PM
Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 26 Sep 2009 09:59 PM
Thanks bookitty, let's do this test when I arrive to California. I'd be happy to. I realize that there is absolutely no way to confirm that I have not read up on the medical effects of structures, after all I think doctors of medicine should know these things. But at the very least, if I make mistakes, then that settles it. 

Stop with the manipulation.  This test, regardless of the outcome will "settle" nothing.  Of all the tests you have proposed, this one carries with it the highest possibility of cheating.  So passing would be suspect, at the very least. 

If you fail, it will only confirm that you were happy to waste my time in order to be the center of attention.  "Settled" is not the word you want to use in that case.  Unsettled is much closer. 

bookitty, what's wrong with  you? What does this mean: 
 

If you come to Los Angeles, I will be happy to put you in a closed room with 20 images of a chemical structure, a piece of paper and a pen.  If you get better than chance, you may have something.  Or it may be that chemical structures are similar enough to provide clues on their own. 

First you offer to set up a test for me. And when I accept to take your test, you say that I am manipulating. Why don't you set the conditions for pass/fail of our test? Let's see... if I fail the test, I have to falsify all claims and resume to being a normal student, right? No more IIG test. And how about I give you $10,000 and ownership to my website if I fail our test. (No.)

She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment.
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27 Sep 2009 09:46 PM  
Posted By bookitty on 26 Sep 2009 10:12 PM
Wait a minute?
there were two pairs with similar effects and I could not distinguish those

You mean like morphine and oxycodone? You can't even keep your story straight within the same short thread.

Oh gee! The two pairs of similar compounds we are talking about were from the chemical identification test with JREF Forum member Pup! He mailed me I think five different samples of crushed medicines and asked me to identify them. He did provide me with a list of the five, so it was a matching test. However those included two pairs of similar effects so I was reluctant to make final conclusions. I need them to be a bit more distinguishable from one another than that.

As for morphine and oxycodone, they appear to be structurally similar, but the effects I feel are very different. So I would not call morphine and oxycodone similar one bit! But that's just what I feel.

She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment.
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27 Sep 2009 09:54 PM  

Never mind. Not allowed to talk about that.

She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment.
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28 Sep 2009 01:19 AM  
What you "feel" about oxycodone and morphine is wrong. They are both opiates, and the effects are very similar. Once again, your perceptions when viewed in the harsh light of reality are found to be nothing.

Let me ask you this: Last year you said you were going to keep a running log of your perceptions. Are you telling us that you haven't had any perceptions since December of last year?
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