[10:37:36 PM] Anita Ikonen: Personally, I like gin.

[10:37:47 PM] Anita Ikonen: Although I only get drunk from wine. Nothing else works on me.
[10:37:57 PM] Anita Ikonen: I don't even get tipsy from other alcohols.

Anyone with basic knowledge of chemistry can see what is wrong with the above statement.

Well, almost anyone.

It's probably the same genetic mutation that allowed her to get high by looking at a picture of marijuana (or whatever it was).

It was a scanning electron microscope image of cannabis, but I thought it was a close-up of an insect because all previous images had been of insects and I had no idea that it had just entered a different subject. These images are on the internet and I would like to find them and show you what it looked like. I begun feeling strange and strong effects on my body, and although I have never used these drugs I did think that it was feeling like being under the influence of a drug. It was a very interesting experience. So I was wondering why an insect picture was making me high so I scrolled the page and was delighted to find that it was in fact an SEM picture of cannabis.

I would be happy to submit to a drinking test to show that I don't seem to get drunk from any alcohols but if I have half a glass of wine or less I am under the table so to speak (Swedish expression).

I once looked at a drawing of the molecular structure of codeine and immediately felt very strong medicinal effects in my respiratory system. It felt like a cool numbing sensation. At that point I was not familiar with what the expected medical effects of codeine should be. I had to look away because the feeling was just that strong, and the feeling in my respiratory system lasted throughout the day. Here is a picture of codeine. I also felt that the effect comes from the ether functional group that is to the middle left (the O that is on its own) as opposed to the other functional groups (the CH₃O, OH, or N), and that little perceived detail could be checked for accuracy.

The way I experience it is that I am familiar with the way each of the different chemical elements (the atoms, such as O for oxygen, C for carbon) feels to me in terms of its color, shape, electron distribution and vibrational aspect, and when I look at the structure of molecules it then connects into a feeling of the composite color, shape, electron distribution and vibrational aspect of the molecule. And being aware of the vibrational aspect of the human body, these then interact and combine into a resulting vibrational aspect that displays the supposed effects. And that is how I feel the effect in my respiratory system from looking at a drawing of the molecular structure of codeine. This is what I call Vibrational algebra.

Posted By desertgal on 26 Sep 2009 06:41 PM
I actually spat coffee onto my monitor when I read that.

Did you really? 

 

Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 26 Sep 2009 09:08 PM

 This is what I call Vibrational algebra.

This is what I call bullshit.

Seriously, is she talking to herself? It's a thread where we are laughing at her nonsense claims, and she interjects yet another one, as if we will say, "Well, we didn't believe her about the cannabis, or the alcohol, but, codeine! That makes all the difference. She MUST be telling the truth."

Just when we thought she couldn't get more mind boggingly obtuse, she proves us wrong. She's just lost in VisionFromFantasyLand.

OMG, this is scaring even me. To have a little test, I just looked up the structure of morphine and felt into the structure to see what effects it should have on the body. I was fully expecting "pain reducer" because that's what I know people use it for, but what did I feel? I felt that the two alcohol functional groups, the two OH on either side to the left, widen and expand blood and make blood thinner. Surprised, I then did a Google search on "morphine thin your blood" and found confirmation. I sure did not make this up! 

I also came across a random medical substance oxycodone and logically thought that gee, this one looks just like codeine so I was fully expecting this one to be for the respiratory system as well. But no it wasn't! I felt that it has a strong effect on pain! Wow! I was right again! (I feel that it is the ketone functional group O= that does it.) 

I just got chills twice in a row! This is amazing! I can do this!

I swear I did not make this up! It really happened! And that is why I MUST have these paranormal tests! How can we test this particular claim?

Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 26 Sep 2009 09:37 PM

OMG, this is scaring even me.

I just got chills twice in a row! This is amazing! I can do this!

Can you?  Can you really, really, really, REALLY do that?

Can you prove it?  No.  Does it matter? No?   Do we care?  Yawn.

Send a link to a chemical structure and I will tell you what I feel it would do in the body. Find something large and difficult because you all know I am a Chemistry student and I am expected to develop some chemical intuition, but this goes beyond what our curriculum really offers.

The VisionFromFantasy Attention Whore Advisory System is now at Red Alert...

Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 26 Sep 2009 09:46 PM

Send a link to a chemical structure and I will tell you what I feel it would do in the body. Find something large and difficult because you all know I am a Chemistry student and I am expected to develop some chemical intuition, but this goes beyond what our curriculum really offers.

No.  It is impossible to put any controls on that experiment.  There is no time limit on this and it is far to easy to do a search on any image.  This a blatant attempt at manipulation.  

If you come to Los Angeles, I will be happy to put you in a closed room with 20 images of a chemical structure, a piece of paper and a pen.  If you get better than chance, you may have something.  Or it may be that chemical structures are similar enough to provide clues on their own. 

Posted By bookitty on 26 Sep 2009 09:52 PM

No.  It is impossible to put any controls on that experiment.  There is no time limit on this and it is far to easy to do a search on any image.  This a blatant attempt at manipulation.  

If you come to Los Angeles, I will be happy to put you in a closed room with 20 images of a chemical structure, a piece of paper and a pen.  If you get better than chance, you may have something.  Or it may be that chemical structures are similar enough to provide clues on their own. 

 

Make sure the room is padded.

Posted By desertgal on 26 Sep 2009 09:50 PM

The VisionFromFantasy Attention Whore Advisory System is now at Red Alert...

Indeed!  It's rather amusing that she can identify drugs from a photograph but can not identify their substance when she has actual drugs in front of her. 

Posted By bookitty on 26 Sep 2009 09:56 PM

Posted By desertgal on 26 Sep 2009 09:50 PM

The VisionFromFantasy Attention Whore Advisory System is now at Red Alert...

Indeed!  It's rather amusing that she can identify drugs from a photograph...

Especially while she's connected to the Internet...

Posted By bookitty on 26 Sep 2009 09:52 PM

No.  It is impossible to put any controls on that experiment.  There is no time limit on this and it is far to easy to do a search on any image.  This a blatant attempt at manipulation.  

If you come to Los Angeles, I will be happy to put you in a closed room with 20 images of a chemical structure, a piece of paper and a pen.  If you get better than chance, you may have something.  Or it may be that chemical structures are similar enough to provide clues on their own. 

Thanks bookitty, let's do this test when I arrive to California. I'd be happy to. I realize that there is absolutely no way to confirm that I have not read up on the medical effects of structures, after all I think doctors of medicine should know these things. But at the very least, if I make mistakes, then that settles it. 

Indeed!  It's rather amusing that she can identify drugs from a photograph but can not identify their substance when she has actual drugs in front of her. 

Among the medicines that were sent to me, there were two pairs with similar effects and I could not distinguish those. And, sure enough, when you look up the list of medicines that were provided, there were two pairs that had similar effects! 

 

Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 26 Sep 2009 09:59 PM

Posted By bookitty on 26 Sep 2009 09:52 PM

No.  It is impossible to put any controls on that experiment.  There is no time limit on this and it is far to easy to do a search on any image.  This a blatant attempt at manipulation.  

If you come to Los Angeles, I will be happy to put you in a closed room with 20 images of a chemical structure, a piece of paper and a pen.  If you get better than chance, you may have something.  Or it may be that chemical structures are similar enough to provide clues on their own. 

Thanks bookitty, let's do this test when I arrive to California. I'd be happy to. I realize that there is absolutely no way to confirm that I have not read up on the medical effects of structures, after all I think doctors of medicine should know these things. But at the very least, if I make mistakes, then that settles it. 

Stop with the manipulation.  This test, regardless of the outcome will "settle" nothing.  Of all the tests you have proposed, this one carries with it the highest possibility of cheating.  So passing would be suspect, at the very least. 

If you fail, it will only confirm that you were happy to waste my time in order to be the center of attention.  "Settled" is not the word you want to use in that case.  Unsettled is much closer. 

Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 26 Sep 2009 10:02 PM

Indeed!  It's rather amusing that she can identify drugs from a photograph but can not identify their substance when she has actual drugs in front of her. 

Among the medicines that were sent to me, there were two pairs with similar effects and I could not distinguish those. And, sure enough, when you look up the list of medicines that were provided, there were two pairs that had similar effects! 

 

And where are the test results?  Besides in your head?