Moss
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 | | 29 Apr 2010 04:59 AM |
| Hmm, I think she could be even good at science if she puts her mind to it. Because studying hard is a good basis for that. And she might get really interested in the sciences if less realistic topics drop to the sideline. She didn't get perfect grades, but she isn't a total slouch either.
I think the problem of judging whether she actually has any deeper understanding of science is that she is totally focused on her beliefs and that may( just may) get into the way of her understanding of the world. If it conflicts with her beliefs she is (as humans are) prone to dismiss it. And the whole defending her fantasies aspect didn't/doesn't allow her the time and the capacity to actually address other things.
In case you are wondering whether or not I expect her to become a Dawkins or Feynman if she manages to get her head around: no, not really. But she could be good.
If she manages to get her determination set on something that has a basis in reality I think she can be remarkable. Depending entirely on where her preferences and talents lie.
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UncaYimmy
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| | 29 Apr 2010 05:06 AM |
| I forced her hand in the Science forum once. Check it out: http://forums.randi.org/showthread....ost4824493 I asked for Sol Invictus to comment, and Anita had the balls to tell me, "They sure as hell are not the same thing! LOL LOL you guys suck. I was right after all. They are NOT the same thing. NOT NOT NOT." She's very cocky and wrong. | | UncaYimmy
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UncaYimmy
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Ashles
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| | 29 Apr 2010 02:05 PM |
| Posted By UncaYimmy on 29 Apr 2010 03:24 AM
Her new forum is on-line. If only she spent that much effort testing her claims.
She must have been breaking her (or some other gullible idiot's) back to get that forum up as quickly as possible after her ban on the JREF. Because of course it's not all about attention for Anita is it? This is where we discuss VFF - the claim, the person, the investigation, and anything related.
Just to remind ourselves... it's not all about attention for Anita. Is it. | | | |
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Moochie
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| | 29 Apr 2010 09:21 PM |
| I can see the new VFF forum will be needing more bandwidth very soon due to the avalanche of new members once word gets out. Say, I wonder how word will get out...
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Farencue
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| | 01 May 2010 04:24 AM |
| I would wager that the poster "starthinker" is actually Anita.
I would also wager that the other 2 members are also Anita.
This incarnation, like Alenara, is over. | | | |
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UncaYimmy
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| | 01 May 2010 07:15 AM |
| Starthinker and Rodney are members at the JREF. If Anita can get one of the heads of the IIG into a long-distance relationship, don't think she can't get a few JREF members to join her forum. | | UncaYimmy
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Akhenaten
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| | 01 May 2010 07:54 AM |
| heh heh. I'm having evil thoughts here. Should I or shouldn't I?
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Nor all thy piety nor wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line.
Nor all thy tears wash out a word of it.
- from The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, who really should have read the FAQ and learned about the Edit function. | |
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catbasket
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| | 01 May 2010 01:13 PM |
| "Should"! For it is written, in the Book of Cyril, that evil thoughts are good. | | | |
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desertgal
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| | 01 May 2010 07:31 PM |
| I glanced at her forum this morning, and what she has posted is the same tired points she has been making for the last six months. Since she changes every falsification of her claim into a "redefining of the parameters", I can't see that engaging her in any further discussion would be productive. It's all just the same circular argument.
I have to agree with UY and Mark Edward - ignoring her is the best option. | | | "The only time you can read the future from cards is when you are holding four aces in a poker game." - Pernell Roberts | |
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desertgal
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| | 01 May 2010 07:33 PM |
| Posted By UncaYimmy on 30 Apr 2010 11:15 PM
Starthinker and Rodney are members at the JREF. If Anita can get one of the heads of the IIG into a long-distance relationship, don't think she can't get a few JREF members to join her forum. Ironically, I doubt that Spencer Marks will contribute much, if anything, to her forum. He certainly didn't jump to affirm her cocaine sniffer "perception". | | | "The only time you can read the future from cards is when you are holding four aces in a poker game." - Pernell Roberts | |
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Moss
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| | 02 May 2010 01:45 AM |
| Well, she can amuse herself to the sound of "nobody cares anymore". Echo chamber style. | | | |
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Daylightstar
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| | 02 May 2010 01:18 PM |
| Posted By desertgal on 01 May 2010 11:33 AM
Ironically, I doubt that Spencer Marks will contribute much, if anything, to her forum. He certainly didn't jump to affirm her cocaine sniffer "perception".
Nobody ever seems to jump to affirm anything that VfF says or claims.
I agree, ignoring her is the best option.
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Farencue
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| | 05 May 2010 06:16 AM |
| Well, Anita is busy making posts to herself - she is claiming she healed someone's shoulder.
I'm also laughing at how Mark Edward is all of a sudden a meanie that is really in love with her.
I knew Anita had picked the wrong guy to fuck with in Mark. | | | |
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UncaYimmy
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Moochie
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| | 05 May 2010 06:48 PM |
| Posted By UncaYimmy on 05 May 2010 04:35 AM
The shoulder story is about her ex-fiance. Here forum is rather sad, isn't it?
It is. Kinda like throwing a party and no one comes. Still, it was to be expected, I guess. Whether starting a blog or opening a forum, getting any kind of traction vis-a-vis traffic can be very difficult, and if the blog/forum has such a narrow focus as VFF's appears to have, well, the prognosis isn't good. She shouldn't have gotten herself dumped from the JREF forums -- she's unlikely to find such a high profile platform again.
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Ashles
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| | 06 May 2010 05:06 PM |
| Posted By UncaYimmy on 05 May 2010 04:35 AM
The shoulder story is about her ex-fiance. Here forum is rather sad, isn't it?
I just had a look - it's rather pitiful.
I guess that's what happens when everything that can be said about a claim has already been said. Let's face it Anita had pretty much resorted to just making the the same statements over and over on the JREF. There was nothinig new to say and her claim had been thoroughly falsified. All that is then left for her to say "Well I think there's still something interesting to investigate". To which everyone else simply shrugs and says "Well there clearly isn't but off you go and waste your own time." To all the people whp felt Anita was moving towards skepticism I think we can clearly say "No, she isn't" However I wonder why even they are not over at Anita's forum of solitude? Wasn't this exactly the sort of interaction Robo in particular claimed to want? She's bored even her supporters. It has ended as it was always going to. Anita in a lonely room, utterly ignored by everyone, mumbling to herself "I am special, I am special, I am special..." | | | |
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UncaYimmy
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Daylightstar
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| | 09 May 2010 03:08 PM |
| Sad....yes.
But in my opinion also pathological. Proper psychiatric care may dissolve this fantasy in the mind of VfF.
Reality is beckoning Anita, don't waste too much time. | | | |
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Ashles
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| | 10 May 2010 06:28 PM |
| Posted By UncaYimmy on 09 May 2010 02:37 AM
Now she's replying to herself. How sad. Well it's much easier because she doesn't ask herself the tricky questions. Such as: if she couldn't see the hand behind the napkin/screen... why was she so unable to simply say "I can't see anything, sorry". If I say I can read the letters on a wall chart and then someone turns off the lights I would simply say "Sorry I can't see anything. My claim is that i can only read them with the lights on". I wouldn't start going "Ooh I dunno, maybe an 'A'? A 'B'? I think... maybe a 'Q'. Then giggle before waiting for the person to turn on the lights while I say "I bet I'm wrong...". And then afterwards saying that wasn't my ability. If I couldn't see and couldn't use my ability I would simply state that. But Miss serious science student still doesn't see why her behaviour was clearly (and has always been) exactly the behaviour of someone simply guessing. Why did she feel the need to guess when she obviously knew she was only guessing? It only makes her look even less credible (as if this were possible). And of course, why are napkins and screens so incredible a barrier to her 'Vision' when clothes are not? I would normally say nobody asks Anita easier questions than Anita herself. But then of course I would be forgetting Jeff Wagg. | | | |
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