Ashles
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 02:53 PM |
| It appears from Anita's homepage that she has a new forum on the way. What's the betting Anita manages to get a forum up and running a damn sight quicker than she ever managed to provide the raw data from her studies? It must be driving her mad that she has no communication with any of her beloved skeptics. Of course interestingly her forum could end up attracting overall a less skeptical crowd than the JREF. It will be interesting to see how Anita behaves towards the believers. Will she express herself as the hardcore science and evidence-based skeptic she claims to be? Which wil risk scaring them away? Or will she put her skeptical tendencies 'on hold' to encourage the attention she may well get from the less skeptical-minded? Should be entertaining. | | | |
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UncaYimmy Your Brilliancy
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 03:13 PM |
| She's a persistent woman, isn't she? She got banned here for threatening lawsuits, police action, and getting a member fired from her job. Over at the JREF she repeatedly attacked people and harassed the moderators and got banned. The FACT local skeptics group refuses to deal with her claims anymore. The IIG has proclaimed that there's nothing left to see. Mark Edward has dealt with her personally and declared there's nothing there to see.
And yet here she is desperately seeking attention. "Please interview me! Please send me questions! Please come to my discussion board and talk about me! I would assure you that I'm not after attention, but what with this big picture of my face on the home page, I don't have any room."
At this point she needs to be ignored. My goal now is to consolidate her story to show everyone just how ridiculous it is and how vindictive she is towards those who dare cross her about her claims. Her website is such a transparent homage to her narcissism that if anyone visits and doesn't think, "What a loon!" then there's not much help for them. | | UncaYimmy Web Design and Virtual Marketing | |
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desertgal V.P. of Patient Relations
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 03:26 PM |
| That's one forum I'll definitely pass up...there's painful and then there's excruciating. But, hey, maybe she'll get visited by everyone who believes she is a demi god. Which, and I'm just making a wild guess here, means she'll be talking to herself. Now, if Akhenaten wants to start the "Proud War Monger of Death" forum, I'll get on board for that one.

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Akhenaten
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 04:22 PM |
| That might be closer to becoming reality that you'd think, dg.
I'm within a hair's breadth of de-registering at the JREF Forum and going back to usenet where I can enjoy a more interesting range of topics being discussed by a generally better class of poster and moderated in a more consistent fashion. | | | The moving finger writes and having writ, moves on.
Nor all thy piety nor wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line.
Nor all thy tears wash out a word of it.
- from The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, who really should have read the FAQ and learned about the Edit function. | |
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Ashles
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 04:22 PM |
| It reminds me of (and this is interesting as I was reminded of it yesterday in another JREF thread) of a poster a while ago called Lucianarchy. Lucianarchy was a believer who claimed all sorts of nonsense for himself (hmm sounds familiar). These claims reached a highpoint of nonsense when he posted a word and claimed it was a prediction about something happening in Ireland... blah, blah, blah. This discussion thrashed on for ages to VfF levels of stupidity. In the end Lucianarchy was, guess what, banned (like we kept telling Anita - we've seen this all before many times). Lucianarchy's response?To set up his own little forum. It was very sad to see it a couple of months later - all the areas and discussion forums he had set up... and almost all still empty. | | | |
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Daylightstar
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 09:25 PM |
| I guess she doesn't have time to collect data, only to collect attention.
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Moss
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 09:30 PM |
| I wonder who she pressganged into setting the forum up. I think she is setting herself up to get trolled vigorously. Oh well, she seems to thrive on negative attention... | | | |
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Daylightstar
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 09:39 PM |
| The negative attention is what sustains her "conviction". If she "is able" to withstand (disregard) all that, her imaginary powers must be true. | | | |
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UncaYimmy Your Brilliancy
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 | | 26 Apr 2010 11:23 PM |
| This is only my opinion, and I have no evidence I can present, but based on my many personal interactions with her, I've come to believe that part of her is truly bewildered by our responses. Remember the thread where I posted the Skype chat where I turned the tables on her in terms of manipulation? It's really quite telling. [10:10:55 PM] Jim Carr: You REALLY did detect it, but your logical mind said it couldn't be true, so you chose to follow your rational logic rather than your perceptions. [10:11:07 PM] Anita Ikonen: EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY! [10:11:14 PM] Anita Ikonen: That's what I've been saying ALL ALONG!!! She was almost manic about it. She was so excited that someone finally understood. There have been other things like that. For example, after we had been discussing mental illness as a possibility at great length on the boards, she actually asked me, "Do you really think I'm mentally ill?" I think she thinks we're all crazy, so it's all in one ear and out the other. | | UncaYimmy Web Design and Virtual Marketing | |
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Daylightstar
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 | | 27 Apr 2010 02:19 AM |
| It's certainly quite a puzzle. Best for Anita Ikonen would be if her own forum remained empty. | | | |
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UncaYimmy Your Brilliancy
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Daylightstar
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 | | 27 Apr 2010 10:12 AM |
| Or girl talk  | | | |
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Ashles
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 | | 27 Apr 2010 01:44 PM |
| Posted By Daylightstar on 27 Apr 2010 02:12 AM
Or girl talk 
LOL! OMG J-Patz is da HOTST!
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Moss
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 | | 27 Apr 2010 02:11 PM |
| Posted By Daylightstar on 26 Apr 2010 01:39 PM
The negative attention is what sustains her "conviction".
If she "is able" to withstand (disregard) all that, her imaginary powers must be true. "One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. The bamboozle has captured us. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." - Carl Sagan The problem she has is that she conned herself... | | | |
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desertgal V.P. of Patient Relations
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 | | 27 Apr 2010 03:31 PM |
| Posted By Moss on 27 Apr 2010 06:11 AM
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. The bamboozle has captured us. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." - Carl Sagan The problem she has is that she conned herself... Exactly. And she wants to continue doing so. She's definitely unwilling to give up being "extraordinary" in her own little world. | | | "The only time you can read the future from cards is when you are holding four aces in a poker game." - Pernell Roberts | |
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Moss
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 | | 27 Apr 2010 08:10 PM |
| Posted By desertgal on 27 Apr 2010 07:31 AM
Exactly. And she wants to continue doing so. She's definitely unwilling to give up being "extraordinary" in her own little world. That's what I think is the real tragedy here. She has the potential to be someone remarkable but her dysfunctional behaviour keeps her from achieving it. All the time she spends on defending her indefensible claims... meh.  | | | |
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Daylightstar
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 | | 27 Apr 2010 08:34 PM |
| Good point Moss.
You know, she feels she is entitled to her "experiences" or "perceptions". But she is entitled to something so much better.....reality.
In my opinion, all she needs to do is take advantage of modern medical science. If only she were to take that step....she could really show the skeptical community that she, in a sense, finally and properly falsified her claims.
Imagine the acknowledgements she might receive.... | | | |
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Chimera
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 | | 28 Apr 2010 05:57 PM |
| Looks like she disabled her "comments" section and now uses it as a personal vendetta against UY/place to write more Walls Of Text. Whatev. | | | |
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Ashles
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 | | 28 Apr 2010 06:30 PM |
| Posted By Moss on 27 Apr 2010 12:10 PM
That's what I think is the real tragedy here. She has the potential to be someone remarkable just out of interest, in what way? Her knowledge of actual science, when she tries to properly discuss it, appears surprisingly shaky at best. For all her claims of being a wonderful science student she has never demonstrated an actual understanding of the scientific terms she likes to toss about. I suspect she studies hard for exams and does well, but doesn't have any depth of understanding - as evidenced by her constant jumping from science subject to science subject (claiming each is her absolute favourite... at that particular moment). The kooky Science Geek persona appears (to me anyway) to be an affectation, a bit of a character she has created to further the image of being special and interesting. Yet curiously she seems to avoid the Science and Mathematics forum on the JREF like the plague. And as we have seen she has no more paranormal ability than a potato. So what particular way do you think she might have potential to be 'remarkable'? (Or did you simply mean in the way we all have the potential to be remarkable if we focus our enrgies in a productive direction that enthuses us? In which case I agree - she certainly has energy and single-mindedness. If only it could be channelled into something productive...) | | | |
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Daylightstar
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 | | 28 Apr 2010 08:25 PM |
| Posted By Ashles on 28 Apr 2010 10:30 AM
(Or did you simply mean in the way we all have the potential to be remarkable if we focus our enrgies in a productive direction that enthuses us? In which case I agree - she certainly has energy and single-mindedness. If only it could be channelled into something productive...)
This is how I agreed with it as well.
However, I don't think she'll be remarkable in science....at all. Mark Edward's advise of getting a real estate job might be a much better choice.
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