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10 Dec 2009 11:35 PM  

I was getting rather tired of Anita's repeated claim that Lex insulted Anita about her clothing, as well as Anita's continued virtuous "I would never tell a lie" crap, so I extracted Lex's comments from the chatroom log. The only other quotes that remain are ones that put Lex's answers and comments into context. For those who wish to read it, you'll see that Anita is lying as usual.

If Anita continues to slam Lex on the JREF, perhaps someone will refer readers to this page, as well.

 

lexvonrockets: hi all
lexvonrockets: anyone else here from clt?
lexvonrockets:  lemme call my peeps
lexvonrockets: my roommates and i are watching - we are all graduates of (and i work for) uncc's physics dept

Audible Click: So you know Anita?
Yaffle: is she as mad in person?
lexvonrockets:  i don't know her very well - just chatted some
lexvonrockets: she has been in classes with friends of mine - they think she's nuts
lexvonrockets: she makes good grades tho
lexvonrockets: I don't know, I guess she is quite smart and she is European, so perhaps she wasn't subjected to American public schools, but I think the bigger question is how can someone who has studied so much physical science believe this  crap??
lexvonrockets: it's puzzling eh?

UncaYimmy: Damn! There's quite a crowd here!
Audible Click: Pull up a chair and have a drink, UY.
lexvonrockets: hi jim!
jhunter1163: *hoists a glass in Yimmy's direction*
lexvonrockets: lol i love that no matter where u go the skeptics are drunks!!
UncaYimmy: Anybody here met Anita in person?
lexvonrockets: got more uncc folks coming!
lexvonrockets:  me

Agatha: i'm up in derbyshire, it's blooming cold
lexvonrockets:  hiya!
lexvonrockets: another phys/math grad coming now

Farencue: loving you long time lex
UncaYimmy: Are you feeling better, Lex?
lexvonrockets:  lol
lexvonrockets:  i am thanks!
lexvonrockets:  i'm excited, after this we have a star party tonight (ahem, nerd)
lexvonrockets:  mines really laggy but running [the video feed]
lexvonrockets:  is the guy still staring off into the crowd?
lexvonrockets:  yeah sound is out just a hum
lexvonrockets:  slappy u here?
lexvonrockets:  fairchild?
lexvonrockets:  sweet
[in response to greetings from UNCC colleagues]
lexvonrockets:  i'm sorry i didn't msg u sooner - jim msged me on facebook and then i slept all day
lexvonrockets:  that man's forhead must be fixing the audio

shikicat: lex how was the trampoline?
lexvonrockets:  shiki: i didn't go yet! (im in trouble)
lexvonrockets:  do they know we can't hear them?
lexvonrockets:  shiki and mike know anita in person too
lexvonrockets:  shiki and mike i suggest jim for friends on fb brb

mike: By the way, all this protocol information is available on their website:  http://iigwest.org/anitaikonenprotocol.html
lexvonrockets:  cool
lexvonrockets:  thanks mike
lexvonrockets:  my video... it lags...
lexvonrockets:  anita's envisioned herself climbing out the bathroom mirror and running for it
lexvonrockets:  anyone have sound yet?

Farencue: lex has anita ever mri'd you or your mates?
lexvonrockets:  far: no i don't know her very well - i'm scared of pp like her
lexvonrockets:  mike, shiki you have had classes with her?

Farencue: scared? lol why? dont like the sound of arcturus?
lexvonrockets:  i'm happy here on earth, thank you
lexvonrockets: 
lexvonrockets:  i've decided to go purple
[font color]
UncaYimmy: It looks good on you.
lexvonrockets: thanks
mike: I wonder if anybody has stored a copy of her webpage, in case she runs back to modify site content after      an  unsuccessful test?
lexvonrockets: mike: get on it
lexvonrockets: i enjoy her drivel more when filtered thru u jim

shikicat : I have to say, I just read her website, and now I lost the very little bit of faith I had in her abilities
lexvonrockets:  just now shira???
lexvonrockets:  wow u must be having a bad semester

shikicat: I don't think sh's lying, I think she's confused
lexvonrockets:  i don't know that anita is hostile, she is more - looking for attn maybe
lexvonrockets:  yeah
lexvonrockets:  that's how she seems in person

Farencue:  what a bit needy lex?
lexvonrockets:  yeah
lexvonrockets:  i have mild synesthesia too tho, and i don't believe it gives me healing powers... i didn't even realize i had it until way into adulthood
lexvonrockets:  i wasn't - i just taste sounds

UncaYimmy: Freaky!
lexvonrockets:  it's no big deal it's not even that interesting
lexvonrockets: yeah!

Yaffle: what does the new meassage ping staste like?
lexvonrockets:  i think everyone has it a bit
lexvonrockets:  it tastes shitty, that's why i turned it off
lexvonrockets:  hey shiki maybe we see that shit bc we are visual ppl bc visual ppl like science... woah, far out.
lexvonrockets:  u are totally fake
(in response to McLuvin asking if he was "synthetic"
lexvonrockets:  this is mcrockin

UncaYimmy: Wow! There are 54 people on the StopVFF site
lexvonrockets:  yay
Empress: Sadly, NOTHING will end it.
Pure_Argent: Yes, I know, I know... I'm naive
Audible Click: It will never end...it's like a cold that keeps going around.
McLuvin: nothing can stop her
lexvonrockets: she'll just come home dejected but with a bigger axe to grind
Farencue: have you seen her boyfriend lex
lexvonrockets:  noo - she has a bf?
lexvonrockets:  i am in a diff building from the rest of the dept

Farencue: yes he is 66
lexvonrockets:  no way!!!!
lexvonrockets:  66?
lexvonrockets:  why?
lexvonrockets:  wow

UncaYimmy: Lex: Do you know a Chistopher R?
lexvonrockets:  thinking
lexvonrockets:  not offhand - why?

UncaYimmy: He's a student. Anita apparently dated his uncle.
lexvonrockets:  
lexvonrockets:  mike, shiki?
lexvonrockets:  jim: i can't think of anyone in the physics dept that fits that descrip
lexvonrockets:  shiki do u know a christopher r who is a student in phys dept?
lexvonrockets:  ahhh
lexvonrockets:    anita dated his uncle jim says

Chloe: does she make these claims verbally too??
lexvonrockets:  chloe: not nearly as loudly
lexvonrockets:  for example, i didn't see her posting any flyers around about this event

Pure_Argent: She thinks she's a star person?
Pure_Argent:  I thought that was a joke!
Audible Click: No joke.
lexvonrockets:  yeah
skeen: lex...how old is this uncle?
lexvonrockets: these guys say 70
shikicat: the first time I met her she told me about her 4.0 JPA and how she wants to move parts of the body with                      EM  radiation and how all the professors think it's a great idea and that she plans on goingto MIT for her                                    PhD
lexvonrockets:  i don't know about this
lexvonrockets:  shiki: so you were like..."gotta run..."
lexvonrockets:  she makes the profs nervous
lexvonrockets:  they won't talk much about her

shikicat: she was talking about some 4.0 GPA club they have
lexvonrockets:  yeah the phys dept does
Chloe: why do you think that is, lex?
lexvonrockets:  i don't know if all tho bc they are so hush hush. we live in the south, apparently secrets are a virtue.
lexvonrockets:  mike and shiki and i are all grads of the phys dept and we all work or study at uncc still
lexvonrockets:  i've read her website and her claims to heal
lexvonrockets:  i haven't read the whole jref posts tho
lexvonrockets:  is she first author?
lexvonrockets:  bc if not, big deal. we're all on 2 or 3 papers. crunch some data, your name's listed.

skeen: yeh...what about her claims about her professor beating her up?
lexvonrockets:  i have no idea about that
lexvonrockets:  video out?

UncaYimmy:  A fellow student confirmed to me that there is a particularly mean professor who won't be fired because he      brings it too much money.
lexvonrockets:  jim: there's tons of those laying about really
shikicat: Lex, are you still planning to go to the trampoline thing today?
lexvonrockets:  trampoline thing probably yeah eventually
skeen: wont the whole school know about her woo woo now?
Drs_Res: yep I'm sure thay ALL know by this time.
Norm: Wasn't it in her school paper anyway?
mike: skeen: fortunately this isn't something that's advertised widely, at least through official channels. I think                           most of the physics department, and definitely the skeptical types know about it
lexvonrockets:  i don't know, it's like they just don't care. we don't live in a very skeptical place.
UncaYimmy: I wonder how the UNCC Newspaper happened to find out about the IIG test? 8-)
lexvonrockets:  hehe
shikicat:  it was in the paper
shikicat:  the UNCC paper I mean
lexvonrockets:  yes shiki bc uncayimmy told them
lexvonrockets:  she is weird in life
lexvonrockets:    she wears grandma clothes
lexvonrockets:    but who am i to judge

Farencue:  what? not a swedist bombshell then?
lexvonrockets:  no she's a hot chick. she just wears grandma clothes.

lexvonrockets: like fuzzy sweaters and 80s slacks,
lexvonrockets:  but hell, i rarely take my pjs off
lexvonrockets:  she never says hi to me even tho we know each other... and she has downloaded my photos on               facebook and edited the gamma on and sent them back saying they are too dark
lexvonrockets:  lol
lexvonrockets:  hilbert?? you named the cat hilbert?
lexvonrockets:  lol i am a lady
lexvonrockets:  a LADY dammit
lexvonrockets:   i've heard that she was inappropriate with one male prof yeah
lexvonrockets:  he told the faculty right away

Farencue: is THIS the meanie professor then?
lexvonrockets:  doubtful
lexvonrockets:  he's very nice
lexvonrockets:   i don't know the deets - i'm staff not fac, i just hear the gossip

shikicat:  was it Fried?
lexvonrockets:  but he came out in a faculty meeting about it right away of course
lexvonrockets:  no
lexvonrockets:  stop guessing

Farencue: did she offer sex for grades?

lexvonrockets:  I'm not sure.
lexvonrockets:  lol doubtful the prof was horrified
lexvonrockets:  shiki - he's someone i'm very good friends with
lexvonrockets:  well i see this all day long - students can solve probs just fine and not know what the heck is going on

UncaYimmy: Lex, that is *exactly* what I told Anita.
UncaYimmy: She and I are opposites. I could always understand what was going on but didn't like to carefully check my         work.
lexvonrockets:  jim: its very true - i had excellent grades in undergrad and can't say i could very well explain electrodynamics to you
lexvonrockets:  still can't but, you know.

Farencue: do you think anita is narcissic Lex?
lexvonrockets:  far: it sure seems like it, but perhaps out of insecurity
lexvonrockets:  omg i really want some tea
lexvonrockets:  i can't go downstairs now! this shit might happen
lexvonrockets:  curses!

mike:lex: you at valhalla?
lexvonrockets:  mike: i am
lexvonrockets:  mikeshiki u guys going to star party? gino and slappy are here in the other rooms... running some         monte carlo stuff... i'm sposed to yell when anita comes on

mike:  is it tonight?
lexvonrockets:  yes
lexvonrockets:  <-- staying inside for a smoke
lexvonrockets:  i tried to get ana on here but i think she is assembling a trampoline

UncaYimmy: I gotta party with you guys someday!
lexvonrockets:  sweet
lexvonrockets:  yes we rock!
lexvonrockets:  all we do is physics and get trashed
lexvonrockets:  it's a very post-modern lifestyle

UncaYimmy : Next Septermber my mother turns 80. I'll be in Maryland. I'll try to swing down.
lexvonrockets:  awesome!
lexvonrockets:  yes we have many couches between us

skeen: im gonna try and get a girlfriend of mine to order pizza for me. think it will work?
lexvonrockets:    there's actually this collective of skeptics/physicists/musicians that live in diff covens around here     hehe
lexvonrockets:  skeen: no
lexvonrockets:  well
lexvonrockets:  wait
lexvonrockets:  how attractive are you?
lexvonrockets:  lol

jhunter1163: Mrs. JHunter1163 has already refused to bring me anything
lexvonrockets:  is that your wife's real name??
lexvonrockets:  hehe
lexvonrockets:  mr. vonrockets has been kicked out of the house.

jhunter1163: sorry to hear that Lex
lexvonrockets:  it's okay
lexvonrockets:  he was a dick

catbasket: dick vonrockets?
lexvonrockets:  rofl
lexvonrockets:  rofl
lexvonrockets:  dick vonrockets
lexvonrockets:  got launched into a crappy studio apt across town

shikicat: I need to take Hilbert to petsmart
lexvonrockets:  hilbert!
lexvonrockets:  geez louise
lexvonrockets:  this taketh forever
lexvonrockets:  im going to make tea
lexvonrockets:  back soon

UncaYimmy: Lex, do you see a private message tab next to the Meanie Bar and Grill?
lexvonrockets: no
lexvonrockets:  i'm back have to wait for the kettle
lexvonrockets:  i have no video

UncaYimmy: Click the Reload button on the video window.
UncaYimmy: Lower left
lexvonrockets:  ahh
lexvonrockets:  thanks
lexvonrockets:  i have it now

lexvonrockets:  thanks
lexvonrockets:  ok making screen big now

UncaYimmy: Fellow UNCC Students: Does she take a lot of time for exams?
lexvonrockets:  no idea
lexvonrockets:  hang on my roommate is in class with her

UncaYimmy: Sorry, but that's a big ass.
lexvonrockets:  her ass isn
lexvonrockets:  ack
lexvonrockets:  isn't THAT big

UncaYimmy: ONe is missing a kidney.
UncaYimmy:  She has to find that person and determine which side.
lexvonrockets: jim: you know for sure?
UncaYimmy: Yes, I know for sure that one and only one is missing a kidney.
lexvonrockets:  does she know?
lexvonrockets:  u think she'll get better and do the next trials faster?
lexvonrockets:  11 left
[her choice for person with missing kidney]
Agatha: i'm sticking with 11 left
lexvonrockets:  unless taken?
lexvonrockets:  ahh
lexvonrockets:  11 right?
lexvonrockets:  i want 11
lexvonrockets:  its 11R suckers
lexvonrockets:  christ on a crutch

skeen: UPDATE: pizza is here! she also ordered me some cookies! sweet, huh?
lexvonrockets:  heck yea
lexvonrockets:  wow this is going on so long u guys are getting mean about the subjects
lexvonrockets:  hehe
lexvonrockets:  ana 
[greeting newcomer to chat]
lexvonrockets:  you guys i seriously left for awhile to go wax my eyebrows
lexvonrockets:  they look badass btw

UncaYimmy: Lex! You're too funny!
lexvonrockets:  it's funny cause it's true
UncaYimmy: It always makes you feel good about yourself, doesn't it?
lexvonrockets:  yeah
lexvonrockets:  hehe
lexvonrockets:  wow did anyone else realize that this [the demonstration] is so fucking stupid?
lexvonrockets:  it just hit me
lexvonrockets:  like a lightning bolt
lexvonrockets:  hehe
lexvonrockets:  i've been here for 4 hours now
lexvonrockets:  i know it's just... i'm trying to get ready for the uncc star party, which is a REAL and TREASURED event  here, and I can't draw myself away from Anita doing fucking nothing

SkepticCanuck: We've all spent 2 hours or so watching her look at other people. And we call *her* crazy? :-)
jhunter1163: are you a rocket surgeon Lex? I might need my wife launched somewhere
lexvonrockets:  canuck: exacto
lexvonrockets:  jh: i'm sure mrs. jhunter1163 would be upset at hearing that
onewomancaravan:  Lex is a more of a rocket scientist
lexvonrockets:  ahhh
lexvonrockets:  what does that make you???

Akhenaten: At least we're not looking for bigfeets.
lexvonrockets:  MY ROCKET QUEEN!
lexvonrockets:  bigfeets haha
lexvonrockets:   hey caravan come over b4 the starrrr party?

UncaYimmy: So, how many UNCC people are here?
lexvonrockets:  me still
lexvonrockets:  i think mike and shiki must have left
lexvonrockets:  ana is here

onewomancaravan:  lex, this is s not a. we are having dinner, which may take a bit. if we have time, we may arrange a visit before starrrrrrr party
lexvonrockets:  ahhhh what are you having for dinner?
lexvonrockets:  not that i am inviting myself over
lexvonrockets:  or anything

onewomancaravan: butternut squash + misc
lexvonrockets:  hmmm
lexvonrockets:  mmmm
lexvonrockets:  are they coming back on air?
lexvonrockets:  mike yer back!
lexvonrockets:  back for the results

Skeptichick: hi all
lexvonrockets:  hi
lexvonrockets:  so uhm why did the feed stop?

GeeMack: they need a few minutes to regroup before the results
lexvonrockets:  ahhh
lexvonrockets:  ok whining over

Sasha: I'm going to a comdy club tonight but I doubt they'll be able to top this.
lexvonrockets:  lol sasha
UncaYimmy:  She has a 0.229 chance of getting one correct.
UncaYimmy:  That's about 1 in 4.5.
lexvonrockets:  is that percent?
mike: nope. She has an 8.3% chance of getting one trial right.
lexvonrockets: oh getting ONE right
mike: and 1 chance in 1728 to get all three right
lexvonrockets:  yes 1 in 12 three times
lexvonrockets:  how do u calc that mike?

mike: in each trial there's 12 possible slots for kidneys. she has to guess which one of the 12 is empty. that's 1/12 per trail, i.e. 8.3%. The three trials are independent, so the probabilities multiply, i.e. 1/(12^3)=1/1728.
lexvonrockets:  cool mike thanks
Skeptichick: is it just me, or does she look like something straight out of an 80's music video?
lexvonrockets:  skeptichick: yes! i think it's cool

 

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10 Dec 2009 11:59 PM  
Well done DG thanks. Anita seemed fixated on Lex insulting her and I didn't remember that happening.
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11 Dec 2009 12:19 AM  

Anita said, on the JREF:

It is against the school's rules for a staff member to insult a student's appearance (especially when her own appearance is rather questionable).

There's no statement by Lex that "insults" Anita's appearance - beyond a mild opinion that Anita wears "grandma" clothes, which could hardly be considered an insult.

Lex also defended Anita when others were poking fun at the size of her backside. Something Anita conveniently overlooked.

And to gossip from things overheard in a faculty meeting and to misrepresent what was supposedly heard (as confirmed directly with that faculty member in question).

Lex made it absolutely clear that she was repeating a rumor. She did not name the professor. She did not say she overheard it during a faculty meeting-in fact, she very clearly stated that she is staff at UNCC, not faculty. She also made it clear that she did not know the details.

Anita also cited this guideline from the UNCC policy statement, and she is completely wrong when she states that it applies to what was said in the StopVisionFromFeeling chatroom.

 

POLICY STATEMENT #95

Members of the University community are subject to disciplinary action for violation of this Policy through applicable disciplinary procedures. Persons not faculty, students or staff, who engage in disruptive conduct, may be subject to penalties stipulated by civil and criminal law.

"FIGHTING WORDS"

HARASSMENT IN THE UNIVERSITY COMMUNITY

The University of North Carolina at Charlotte recognizes the right to freedom of speech as a fundamental tenet of the University and seeks to provide an environment for students, faculty, and staff which is fair, humane, and respectful, and from which violence or the threat of violence is eliminated. While the University is committed to allowing vigorous and open academic discourse and intellectual inquiry, including speech that espouses controversial or even offensive ideas, the University reserves the right to intervene when "fighting words," as defined in this Policy, are used in the University community.

This Policy prohibits the face to face use of "fighting words" by a student, faculty member, or staff member to harass any person or persons on the University campus or other property under University control. "Fighting words" are those personally abusive epithets which, when directly addressed to any ordinary person are, in the context used and as a matter of common knowledge, inherently likely to provoke an immediate and violent reaction, whether or not they actually do so. Such expressions include, but are not limited to, those terms or gestures widely recognized to be derogatory references to race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disability, and other personal characteristics. 

Granted, this might be considered a trivial thing by some, but it is a perfect example of how Anita twists facts to play the victim.

The woman is full of crap. Unfortunately, she decided to sling some at Lex, and I don't care for that much. If she had a valid complaint, I wouldn't say anything, but she doesn't.

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17 Dec 2009 09:14 PM  

Ultimately is it anything to worry about even if someone had blatantly and clearlty harassed, libelled, slandered, or anything else?

After all Anita won't even go to a hospital when she gets bad, bad heart pains because it's too expensive. How likely is she to hire a lawyer?

And if you wanted to bring legal action against someone for stuff said on the internet, you might win, but you'd better have damn deep pockets to get to that point.

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17 Dec 2009 09:42 PM  
My only concern would be if Anita tries to make trouble for Lex with the UNCC administration, but even that isn't much of a concern, since Lex's statements are here for anyone concerned to read and she said nothing even faintly damning.
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