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12 Apr 2010 01:41 PM  
This just in from Anita:
I must inform you that you have made a fool of yourself among the real skeptical community which I interact with. You may have followers among the mutually devoted to personal attack and bullying behavior, but I do remind you that that is not skepticism.


I guess her last 3,500 word e-mail wasn't enough. Thanks to Jeff Wagg, Anita seems to have a new lease on life. She's brimming with confidence now because one ignorant fool did a stupid interview. Apparently Jeff Wagg is the "real" skepticial community and the hundreds of other skeptics who find her claims ridiculous are chopped liver. None of this, of course, changes the fact that she is a proven liar and spin doctor who has repeatedly failed every "test" and "study" she has ever attempted in her effort to "falsify" a claim that is patently ridiculous.

That she continues to e-mail me after repeated requests that she cease and desist (including my looking into restraining orders) is proof that she is a stalker.
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12 Apr 2010 02:28 PM  

Shoot. I guess that means you aren't getting a Christmas card from the Wagg's this year?

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12 Apr 2010 02:35 PM  
She seems to have an unhealthy fixation on skepticism.
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12 Apr 2010 03:02 PM  

Actually, she has an unhealthy fixation on attention whoring. Skepticism is just the current mutation.

I almost feel sorry for Wagg. In the category of things that make you go "bwhhh", Anita has his home phone number.

For that matter, any bets on how long it will take before Wagg joins the "tried to get into my pants" crowd?


 

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12 Apr 2010 03:09 PM  
That's true.
As soon as VfF's conflict inducing conduct actually hits Wagg, he may feel sorry for himself.
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12 Apr 2010 03:35 PM  
You guys are missing one crucial element: She's getting what she wants from Wagg. She won't change her tune with him until she wants something else, and he won't give it. That's when she will try another approach. Look at all the tactics she has used with me.

* Flirting & seduction
* Sharing secrets
* I need your help.
* I'm a science student.
* You're mean.
* I love you!
* I'm dying.
* We're like girlfriends.
* Help me find the truth.
* Public shame (the flip side of flirting/seduction).
* I'm a victim!
* You'll be famous!

And now the latest is she wants me to feel ostracized by my fellow skeptics. If I would only join them (meaning Wagg), I would be accepted as a real skeptic, and don't you want to be a real skeptic? It's like at the end of Terminator 2 when the shape shifting is in the molten metal desperately changing forms trying to escape. Only in Terminator, they didn't have a Bookitty going, "But what if this time he's really a cop? Cops are good guys. He just needs the freedom to explore his copness without being attacked."
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12 Apr 2010 03:46 PM  
Posted By UncaYimmy on 12 Apr 2010 06:35 PM
You guys are missing one crucial element: She's getting what she wants from Wagg. She won't change her tune with him until she wants something else, and he won't give it. That's when she will try another approach. Look at all the tactics she has used with me.

* Flirting & seduction
* Sharing secrets
* I need your help.
* I'm a science student.
* You're mean.
* I love you!
* I'm dying.
* We're like girlfriends.
* Help me find the truth.
* Public shame (the flip side of flirting/seduction).
* I'm a victim!
* You'll be famous!

And now the latest is she wants me to feel ostracized by my fellow skeptics. If I would only join them (meaning Wagg), I would be accepted as a real skeptic, and don't you want to be a real skeptic? It's like at the end of Terminator 2 when the shape shifting is in the molten metal desperately changing forms trying to escape. Only in Terminator, they didn't have a Bookitty going, "But what if this time he's really a cop? Cops are good guys. He just needs the freedom to explore his copness without being attacked."


Sorry, UY - I didn't miss that element.

IMO,  this falls under the "public shame" category: "you've made a fool of yourself among the skeptics who matter", i.e. you are publicly shamed (at least, in the eyes of the 'real' skeptical community) and you should throw in the towel so you can be embraced by the skeptics who "count". (Who, presumably, are Jeff Wagg and Nigel Aves.)

And, of course, she threw a little victimization in there as well.

Cellophane isn't that transparent. I was just attempting a little levity at the predicability of her behavior.

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12 Apr 2010 04:06 PM  
To me public shame involved the accusations of sexual harassment, which was an attempt to use "fear" to get me to "back off" with back-off being defined as not responding to her public campaign to spread her lies, misleading statements and pseudoscientific drivel. This one is different in that she's using the carrot of acceptance along with shame.

She's got a "team" now. I didn't share the entire 500 words because she is unworthy of the attention. However, remember how she would pick up new words and start using them as her own? Same thing. She's now echoing Jeff and Bookitty while trying to get me to join her. She wasn't trying to get me to stop. She was trying to get me alter my behavior and be more like the real skeptics. It was quite the little lecture.
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12 Apr 2010 09:11 PM  
Posted By desertgal on 12 Apr 2010 06:02 PM

Actually, she has an unhealthy fixation on attention whoring. Skepticism is just the current mutation.

I almost feel sorry for Wagg. In the category of things that make you go "bwhhh", Anita has his home phone number.

For that matter, any bets on how long it will take before Wagg joins the "tried to get into my pants" crowd? 

About 5 more days, I think.   

Posted By Daylightstar on 12 Apr 2010 06:09 PM

That's true.
As soon as VfF's conflict inducing conduct actually hits Wagg, he may feel sorry for himself.

About 5 more days, I think.

Is there an echo in here?

The moving finger writes and having writ, moves on. Nor all thy piety nor wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line. Nor all thy tears wash out a word of it. - from The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, who really should have read the FAQ and learned about the Edit function.
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12 Apr 2010 09:41 PM  

You can add kittynh to Anita's "team".
Her attention grabbing website is earnestly answering kitty's "questions".
My oh my.
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13 Apr 2010 01:31 AM  

 

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!


- Sir Walter Scott

 

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13 Apr 2010 01:51 AM  
Anita posted the entire e-mail on her website. In it she is libeling me by telling me to stop doing things I have never actually done. It's bad enough she continues to contact me after I have told her repeatedly not to, but this latest stuff is bat-shit crazy.
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13 Apr 2010 02:34 AM  
Bat shit crazy doesn't even begin to describe it.
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