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26 Nov 2009 07:49 PM  
Dear Mr. Carr,
 
I have informed some of the faculty at my university about the harassment campaign headed by yourself and UNC-Charlotte staff member Alexis Seven. I assume that I can tolerate personal insults, that are targeted against my looks or my behavior, and I understand the origin of these attacks to be the paranormal inquiry that I work on during my spare time. It is also being revealed, that some of the motives of Alexis and those students that take part in the harassment with her, is due to jealousy of my high grades, my career goals, and the support I receive from faculty for my unique research ideas and ambitions within Physics.
 
I understand that my investigation into my experience of feeling health information is highly provocative and controversial. But what several fail to recognize, is that it is based on a genuine experience that I have, and that what I am doing is nothing but research based on scientific curiosity. I have no ambitions of becoming a practicing "psychic", nor have I shown any inclination toward doing that. Accusations against me are based merely on some of your worst expectations. I have already shared with you, that I do appreciate the thought that is behind your website and campaign, that "psychics" need to be stopped, however, here I am nothing but a science student, investigating an unusual and interesting experience.
 
My hypothesis now, as I am learning more about the experience, is that the health perceptions are based on an automatic cold reading skill, and certainly I am interested in investigating it further, to identify what are the sources of that information.
 
I have done nothing to make me entitled to some of the personal attacks and harassment against me. What hurts me the most, is when you all are trying to involve my professors into this hate campaign against me. I do understand, that my personal paranormal investigation is inappropriate, and that is why I have ensured that I maintain a clear distinction between my professional life and education, and with this that I investigate on my own time. My university has no association to what I choose to investigate on my spare time. And I regret that you, and Alexis Seven, fail to respect that very important distinction.
 
If you are trying to hurt my career, I fail to see how that would happen. There have always been controversial research subjects in science, just recently a connection was found that indicates toward mind over matter effects in the human body, and certainly some of our most interesting science discoveries were quite controversial in their time. I am conducting my investigation into my personal experience of some form of cold reading skill, in a highly respectable manner, that has inflicted no harm to others, and that will ultimately lead to a great contribution to skepticism, as well as adding to the understanding of pseudoscience. Claims of extrasensory perception can be highly harmful, when in the hands of those who use it carelessly and immorally, but in the hands of a scientist, claims of unexplainable experiences are handled safely just like a chemist handles dangerous chemicals.
 
My paranormal claim has never been expressed outside of my investigation, and only with participating skeptics. You are fighting the idea, the bigger picture of paranormal claims, and all of those that use it wrongly, and you are taking it all out on the one who chose to investigate cautiously, and scientifically, who wished to take those experiences and make them into a contribution to skepticism.
 
I can tolerate personal attacks against me, although hurtful, what can I do. The way I endure long hours in a science lab, repeating monotonous laboratory exercises, all in the name of a chemistry research project, I do endure some level of discomfort for the sake of my curiosities in the unknown and in what can be discovered and learned. But you cross the line when you involve professors at my university in your lies about me.
 
Certainly, by lying that I would have flirted with professors for higher grades, would certainly hurt me. But what you failed to consider, was, how that would actually hurt the professors when those are nothing but lies. And if you for once think that this will all lead to me getting in trouble, for me getting the blame for what you and Alexis have done, you are seriously incorrect about that. You are the source of those lies and that damage, not me.
 
Alexis will face some charges and I will have a hearing arranged. She might even lose her job, who knows, because she is responsible for highly unprofessional and inappropriate behavior while representing our school, and she has personally been involved in spreading lies about our faculty, and of me of course.
 
I do not know what to do with you, Jim Carr. You are just an attempt at a skeptic, fighting pseudoscience by attacking my investigation and me personally, and growing meaner and meaner as you see it having no effect in stopping my inquiry. There will be a point, too, where you will also face charges. There does exist a point, where what you are doing against me crosses the line to being illegal.
 
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26 Nov 2009 08:04 PM  
You failed.
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26 Nov 2009 08:22 PM  

Yes, Honeybunches, but that is not the topic of this thread. This thread discusses the personal attacks and harassment targeted against me by ours Jim Carr and one of the staff members of my school, Alexis Seven, and some of her student friends. Surely I failed the IIG Preliminary, but I will have another test just to learn more about my automatic cold reading skill that translates into corresponding feeling and images, or what ever it is. I am not trying to be psychic, I am happy to fail as a psychic. I just want to learn more about the experience, so please allow me.

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26 Nov 2009 08:24 PM  
Alexis,

I had wanted us to wait a few days and then for you and me to talk it through privately. However, Jim Carr has now sent me a message accusing me of flirting with Dr. ---. I can only assume that this lie has come from you, Alexis.

You have clearly crossed the line. I have never flirted with any of my professors. Surely, I do chat and smile with them, but that is all because of the love of Physics. Your hate campaign against me is now also hurting our faculty, and you must be stopped and you must face the consequences of your actions.

You have behaved unprofessionally, inappropriately, while representing yourself as a member of our university. Meanwhile, although my paranormal inquiry concerns a highly controversial and provocative subject, I have always conducted myself in a highly moral manner, no one has become hurt in my investigation, and furthermore, I have never represented myself as a member of our university in my investigation, and I have always emphasized a clear distinction between UNC-Charlotte and my paranormal inquiry.

You however, have failed to do so, and have also become guilty of slander. I react more strongly to the fact that you are now hurting our faculty, than the fact that you are choosing to try to hurt me.

I will arrange so that the school has a hearing and your inappropriate behavior will be brought up to the faculty and management. I regret if this makes you hate me even more, but surely you do understand, that I am more concerned to protect our school and our faculty from your behavior. This is not intended as revenge, I am not a hateful person, it just affects me deeply that you would try to involve our faculty in this.

Did you ever wonder what this might do to Dr. ---, to be accused of something that he did not do? He is a married man, and I have a boyfriend. You, not my paranormal investigation, are ruining the reputation of our school.

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26 Nov 2009 08:48 PM  
Jim Carr has now sent me a message accusing me of flirting with Dr. ---.


That is a lie. I sent her a picture I found of one of the staff at UNCC and wrote, "Do you think he is handsome?" That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

At this point, Anita, you are not welcome on this board. Your posting privileges have been revoked.
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26 Nov 2009 08:52 PM  
"My hypothesis now, as I am learning more about the experience, is that the health perceptions are based on an automatic cold reading skill, "

How do u auto cold read lactobacillus or a diaphragm? Or get pushed of a chair by a ghost?

You failed and are a liar and a fraud (on topic for harassment thread)...
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26 Nov 2009 08:53 PM  
Thank you. I don't recall Alexis saying Anita was flirting with a prof. Do you?
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26 Nov 2009 08:54 PM  
Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 26 Nov 2009 12:22 PM

Yes, Honeybunches, but that is not the topic of this thread. This thread discusses the personal attacks and harassment targeted against me by ours Jim Carr and one of the staff members of my school, Alexis Seven, and some of her student friends. Surely I failed the IIG Preliminary, but I will have another test just to learn more about my automatic cold reading skill that translates into corresponding feeling and images, or what ever it is. I am not trying to be psychic, I am happy to fail as a psychic. I just want to learn more about the experience, so please allow me.

You failed, and your claim was falsified. That's the only real topic right now.
You still haven't declared your claim falsified.
 

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26 Nov 2009 08:55 PM  
Jim Carr, you are a legend.
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26 Nov 2009 08:59 PM  
Posted By Audible Click on 26 Nov 2009 12:53 PM
Thank you. I don't recall Alexis saying Anita was flirting with a prof. Do you?
I do recall Alexis saying that Anita was "inappropriate" with a professor, who reported it immediately.

 

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26 Nov 2009 09:07 PM  
From the chat log:

lexvonrockets i've heard that she was inappropriate with one male prof yeah
Norm You called?
Agatha you called, m'lord d'lorde?
Audible Click We're skeptics.
Farencue OH WHAT!!!
UncaYimmy Skeen, I don't mean to be crude, but when you're decades past the last time you should normally get some nookie from a chick in her 20s, you'll put up with a lot.
lexvonrockets he told the faculty right away
shikicat wwhich one?
Farencue is THIS the meanie professor then?
lexvonrockets doubtful
skeen oh what did she do?
lexvonrockets he's very nice
Farencue oh lordy
McLuvin unca yimmy speaks the wisdom of Yoda
lexvonrockets i don't know the deets - i'm staff not fac, i just hear the gossip
UncaYimmy They said Anita is in th ehouse. Told ya it was her.
shikicat was it Fried?
lexvonrockets but he came out in a faculty meeting about it right away of course
lexvonrockets no
lexvonrockets stop guessing
Norm Fried Anita?
Farencue did she offer sex for grades?
lexvonrockets i'm not sure
shikicat maybe that's where the 4>0 came from
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lexvonrockets lol doubtful the prof was horrified
lexvonrockets shiki - he's someone i'm very good friends with
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26 Nov 2009 09:15 PM  
I also sent Anita an e-mail telling her not to contact me again unless it was through an attorney. Of course, she ignored that, so I warned her again. This is what she sent.

Jim Carr,

How dare you. That thread was about harassment, not about the charges.
Besides, that thread was highly relevant to the subject of
VisionFromFeeling. The fact that you omit the information, and restrict my
access to your Forums, indicates that you are not objective, and that your
efforts are nothing but a hate campaign against me.

The fact that you now run a hate-website against me, without even giving
me the right to defend myself, is grounds for why I will now press charges
against you, Jim Carr.

Of course you might have not done anything wrong, but I will let someone
else decide.

Alexis will face charges at the school, because she has lied about
flirting taking place between me and a professor, and it is entirely
inaccurate.

We'll just see what happens. I think you are exaggerating about
everything. I am just investigating. It is not like I live an hour from my
boyfriend's house, and am charging $1,700 for a psychic reading, like
someone else around here is doing.

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26 Nov 2009 09:24 PM  
I approve of this thread. 'Passions' has lost its place as wierdest soapie ever.
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26 Nov 2009 09:36 PM  
She's got title and content mixed up. The thread's title is herassment, the o.p. is about charges.
For the rest, she's not very explicit with her complaints, it's all very nebulous and unsupported.

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26 Nov 2009 09:39 PM  
Passions? is that on tv?

What is a tv again?
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26 Nov 2009 09:42 PM  

BTW, this arrived about an hour before the lawsuit post. I did not respond:

 

I'll be darned? Are they saying that I've flirted with Dr. ****? How absolutely ridiculous! It is a false rumor.

The thing is, I was in his class last Spring, but due to my depression, I asked Dr. **** to assign me an Incomplete grade. That means that I can complete the course the year after instead. I have absolutely not flirted with Dr. **** . Some of the students are very jealous because I have an almost 4.0 GPA, and they don't.

Jim, it is a false rumor. Besides, if I had to flirt with a Physics professor, it would be some of the others.
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26 Nov 2009 09:57 PM  
Oh dear. Meltdown time.

Anita, please talk to a mental health professional. You clearly need help and there is no shame in accepting that help. I am saying this out of nothing but concern for your well-being.
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26 Nov 2009 10:05 PM  

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26 Nov 2009 10:16 PM  

How appropriate for all of you to attack me. Alexis has accused me of flirting with a professor. She has given the name of that professor to Jim Carr and to others, and she is spreading slander and lies about him. And here you attack me? You are not Skeptics, because if you were, you would see what is going on.

Let me say that Lex did not give me that professor's name nor the name of any other professor. She has made no comments about any of the professors by name. You made that assumption on your own, and it is 100% incorrect.

An entirely different person, who shall remain nameless, mentioned a professor's name as a possible candidate for the Meanie Professor you claimed physically and verbally abused you. I decided to mess with you and send his picture to you, asking if you thought he was handsome.

Your charges are unfounded and based on conjecture. Meanwhile, I have full documentation. What you are doing is called libel. If you want to continue, do it on your own site.
 

 

 

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26 Nov 2009 10:16 PM  
Other than the less than polite banter in the chatroom, for which people have apologised elsewhere, to what attack(s) on Anita do you refer?
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