I no longer post at the JREFF Forums, but I still catch the threads that interest me. This latest post by Anita is a doozy! She's trying to deflect people away from the mental illness explanation by changing her story around and trying to get people to think about synesthesia. Once again, Anita, what you describe is nothing like any form of synesthesia ever documented nor is it likely ever to be. Period.

The medical perceptions are when I see images that depict internal tissues and health information. But it really starts as a landscape of colors and shapes that builds up into those images.

This is the first time I can recall her ever saying anything about a landscape of colors and shapes. Go back and read the Interview Thread where she describes her perceptions in great detail. See below.

The images of health problems appear in their most relevant angle and magnification that best describes the situation. However I can go from there and choose to look at structures in the body from any angle that I choose, and from any level of magnification that I want. I find that going deeper into organs, seeing the tissue structure, and individual cells, and molecular level, going into the atoms, that after the atomic level comes what I call the vibrational level of magnification, where all things appear to be vibrational structures, and I believe that this is what I am fundamentally perceiving, that forms the larger scale composite information. I can observe images from several angles and several levels of magnification simultaneously.

In her recent JREFF post she claims that:,

They are also not a distraction, they do not divert my attention away from my ordinary information processing and awareness. They do not come with automatic sense of reality, I consider them to be subjective impressions and not reality.

Yet in the past she told us:

When it comes to severe health problems, their images are very clear and come to me on their own and can be impossible to ignore. When it comes to perceptions that are formed from weaker information and from a conscious effort of mine to focus on them, as soon as I take my focus away from them I no longer detect the images. So it depends on the strength of the information, as well as where my focus is. It is often possible to focus on other things and ignore the images, just like you can have music playing in the background and hear it well when you are listening, and when you focus on something else you won't even be aware of the music at all as if it's not even there.

She tell us, "I do not tell people about my perceptions of them." Well, then from where does she come up with all these "accurate descriptions of health conditions" if she doesn't tell anyone about them? We've seen a few of her alleged "successes" and they are nothing that would evern raise an eyebrow. Let's not forget that she did a "study" where two of the three controls scored better than her.

She says she's not worried about these perceptions.

There are countless of reasons why something like this would be of concern. For instance, if my perceptions were uncomfortable or scary to me, which they are not.

Thing is, she has told us stories of encounters with ghosts where she was frightened and physically shoved by them. Of course, she wants to say that these are "separate" claims that have nothing to do with her medical perceptions. The rest of us know that is all a manifestation of either mental illness or compulsive lying (or both). The fact that she has made over a thousand posts, e-mails, and chats about this subject indicates the magnitude of the negative effect on her life.

Her latest post is just so much hand waving. She wants to distract everyone into thinking this is just ordinary synesthesia. That's a load of crap. First, synesthesia is clearly nothing like what she describes. Second, she took a generous synesthesia screening test on-line and failed miserably. She believes she has sooper powers, plain and simple.

It's frightening that after all this time she's still trying to pretend otherwise. Does she really think she is fooling anyone?

I don't think it will be devastating at all if she fails a test. She has already told us that she will continue with these perceptions and believes them to be perfectly normal. And she won't allow the IIG test to falsify her claims. After all, she only detected a missing kidney once. Just like with her other failures, she'll ignore it.

On top of that she claims that failing the IIG test will ony "falsify" some of her claims. And by falsify she doesn't mean she will retract anything. She was very careful about that. Besides, she has plenty of other claims to work with like remote tasting, talking with ghosts, healing and so forth. If she ever takes a test, I doubt much of anything will change. She ants that Nobel so bad she can taste it.

If anything does change, then she will call herself the greatest skeptic who ever lived. She has told us she will hold up herself as a model for other skeptics. However, I still believe she won't let a failed test get in her way. The many failures so far haven't. Look at how she ignored all the failures in her Study on Induced Information. The rationalization is amazing and quite telling. 
 

Conclusions: I don't recall having ever experienced medical perceptions in darkness but wanted to try a study procedure that is otherwise identical to a previous study procedure but only changing the condition that this study takes place in darkness. By changing one variable only, any changes to the trend in results can be attributable to that one change in procedure. Only ten trials were done in the first study with a weight, and only ten trials were done in this first study with a weight in darkness and I hesitate to conclude on only ten and ten trials, but it does seem that my acchievements would be significantly reduced due to darkness. So it would seem that light is necessary for better acchievement. Unfortunately I can't say whether I experienced or felt that it would be more difficult in darkness, I do however think that it felt different.

Posted By bookitty on 23 Sep 2009 04:49 AM
It is obvious that she is either so far gone into her fantasy world that a negative outcome will only encourage her or she's so intent on being the center of attention that she doesn't care.

Yup.

Is it also possible that Anita fails to grasp the fallacies in her claims and the widespread disbelief that she is encountering because she is just, well...not all that smart?

I mean, we have a 4th year science student here. We know she made the Chancellor's List once, but we also know that rote memorization can give someone good grades, and still not necessarily mean that they are actually learning something. We know she's displayed an absymal lack of understanding of scientific principles, proper research techniques, proper data collection, etc. And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to things that Anita seemingly fails to comprehend.

For another example, take her "att. treatment vs. treatment" argument. A granule of common sense should tell her that there is no difference, but she is still running with it.

From what I've seen, she's good at parroting knowledge (including her word assimilations), but her comprehension level seems to be almost below standard.

It is not just a picture, the vision is in real-time motion. I can watch the contractions and movement in organs and tissue, the flow of body fluids, and the movement and transportation of cells and chemicals.

She tell us, "I do not tell people about my perceptions of them." Well, then from where does she come up with all these "accurate descriptions of health conditions" if she doesn't tell anyone about them? We've seen a few of her alleged "successes" and they are nothing that would evern raise an eyebrow. Let's not forget that she did a "study" where two of the three controls scored better than her.

When I have a perception of someone's health and the person later shares their health information, the perception can be confirmed without me ever having had to tell the person about it. Some of my alleged successes are incredible, such as what a person ate, perfect description of a brown patch in the field of vision, formerly crushed skull, serious case of cysts in internal reproductive system, left kidney being missing, and more. Of course that is nothing but anecdotal and of course I could be lying although I state that I am not, and the only consequence is that there will be a paranormal test to see what's what. As for the study, it was a study, trying out various test conditions that I couldn't have known how I am going to do with. I still need to post the data from the study but it is hundreds of papers and the scanner is still down.

Thing is, she has told us stories of encounters with ghosts where she was frightened and physically shoved by them. Of course, she wants to say that these are "separate" claims that have nothing to do with her medical perceptions. The rest of us know that is all a manifestation of either mental illness or compulsive lying (or both). The fact that she has made over a thousand posts, e-mails, and chats about this subject indicates the magnitude of the negative effect on her life.

Interestingly, with that particular case of poltergeist that pushed me off the chair, before I made any mention of my perception of the ghost girl that was screaming at me to get out of her house, I told the couple that lived in the house that their house is haunted, and then they told me the same stories. So it is interesting that, since we are being skeptical about it, the same house will trigger exactly the same ghostly experiences in different people who go there and who have not shared stories. Why don't you come with me to the house Jim? I'll let you spend the night on the kitchen floor and she'll throw plates at you. Some ghosts can be uncomfortable, but here in North Carolina I rarely have to experience it.

Her latest post is just so much hand waving. She wants to distract everyone into thinking this is just ordinary synesthesia. That's a load of crap. First, synesthesia is clearly nothing like what she describes. Second, she took a generous synesthesia screening test on-line and failed miserably. She believes she has sooper powers, plain and simple.

The online test did not test for the particular types of synesthesia that I claim to experience. I don't believe I have powers. I just know that when I look at people I see images of tissues, and sometimes they are accurate about things that I should not have been able to know. But a test will show whether that is so or not.

It's frightening that after all this time she's still trying to pretend otherwise. Does she really think she is fooling anyone?

 I'm not trying to fool anyone. All I'm saying is that there will be a test.

Posted By Audible Click on 23 Sep 2009 02:17 AM
It's very difficult to know if she thinks she's fooling anyone. Every comment on here and JREF is negative but she ignores them. I honestly don't know if she's so far down the rabbit hole that she actually believes and needs to believe, that she has paranormal powers. If it's some sort of build up to a career in woo then, yeah, I'd say she's just stringing us along. What is frightning, to me, is that if she ever has a meaningful test and fails it and she's mentally ill then what happens to her afterwards could be devestating.

I'm not trying to fool anyone. All I am saying is that I believe I have experienced interesting correlating medical perceptions that I can't deny or find an explanation for. And the only consequence of that is that I will have a paranormal test with the IIG. I absolutely do not believe I have a paranormal ability, I just think I've had interesting accurate perceptions of health. My main hypothesis is that I am unintentionally and subconsciously picking up subtle external clues about a person's health when I look at them and that it translates into corresponding images of health. I don't know. The first thing to do is to establish whether there is a significant accuracy or not that is beyond what a person should be able to acchieve. I'm headed toward a career in conventional medicine. I am prepared to fail at the IIG test and so if and when I fail I am ready for that outcome and won't even be surprised. That way if I pass the test it will be a pleasant surprise and if I fail I will be ready for it. And I really don't think I am mentally ill, if I were there would have been other clues, such as that I would actually be claiming to have a paranormal ability or that I would be saying that I don't think I am going to fail the IIG test. What happens after I fail the IIG test is that I will thank the IIG for having allowed me to falsify a claim I was not able to falsify on my own, I will proudly admit that I falsified a paranormal claim, and I will dedicate my website to this conclusion in my investigation. Don't let your imagination get you carried away, it could turn into delusional.

I don't think it will be devastating at all if she fails a test. She has already told us that she will continue with these perceptions and believes them to be perfectly normal. And she won't allow the IIG test to falsify her claims. After all, she only detected a missing kidney once. Just like with her other failures, she'll ignore it.

The perceptions are not something I choose to do, they happen on their own. Of course no matter what the conclusion is in the investigation the perceptions continue to occur as before. The difference will be that I have a better understanding of what they are. The IIG test will falsify the medical perceptions claim if I fail the test. But even if the claim is falsified I continue to experience the perceptions, but I will know that they are not as accurate as they have seemed. You'll just have to wait and see, because I expect to fail the IIG test.

On top of that she claims that failing the IIG test will ony "falsify" some of her claims. And by falsify she doesn't mean she will retract anything. She was very careful about that. Besides, she has plenty of other claims to work with like remote tasting, talking with ghosts, healing and so forth. If she ever takes a test, I doubt much of anything will change. She ants that Nobel so bad she can taste it.
 

The IIG test can falsify the medical perceptions claim but not the migraine healing claim or the claim that I can see ghosts. I will have a test for the migraine healing claim as well and am willing to falsify that claim also. As for the ghosts claim it is not something I am interested in, but I would be willing to test it if offered. The only reason I ever made any mention of a Nobel prize was when YOU said that if I was proven to have an extrasensory ability someone else would be entitled to my Nobel prize, and all I said was that I didn't want someone else to have my Nobel prize.

If anything does change, then she will call herself the greatest skeptic who ever lived. She has told us she will hold up herself as a model for other skeptics. However, I still believe she won't let a failed test get in her way. The many failures so far haven't. Look at how she ignored all the failures in her Study on Induced Information. The rationalization is amazing and quite telling. 

Yeah I am a Skeptic. A Skeptic who experiences woo. Acknowledgeing a failed test will make me a great Skeptic and it would not get in my way for anything. None of the so called failures so far have falsified any of the claims. An official paranormal test is specifically designed to falsify a claim and the conditions of the test have been carefully outlined and approved by the claimant. The several studies I was doing I was trying out various new test conditions that I had never experienced the perceptions under. The study on induced information was to map out the boundaries of how far my perceptions can go. I was intentionally attempting the perceptions under conditions that were not ideal for my perceptions but that would have been good test conditions for a test. Just to see how good of a test I could agree to.

Posted By bookitty on 23 Sep 2009 04:49 AM
Oh my. I had somehow missed the induced information tests. That certainly changes things. In all but one test, she scored less than chance. The one test in which she had perfect results had only 4 tries and possibly included more visual clues. (She was guessing which hand the subject put into ice water. It's very probable that the ice cold water caused some physical reaction that could be read.

So she has already tested herself and failed. Failed spectacularly over a wide spectrum of proposed magic. And her response is to continue on with larger and more ridiculous claims? Even while typing it all up, she thought that the rare hit was proof of power. It is only proof of some mental disorder.

I feel sorry for the IIG, if they do happen to do a test. It is obvious that she is either so far gone into her fantasy world that a negative outcome will only encourage her or she's so intent on being the center of attention that she doesn't care.

The studies I was doing on induced information involved trying out new test conditions that I had never experienced the perceptions under, especially trying out various screens. Just to see if the perceptions could be successful. I learned from it that I do need to see the person in order to have perceptions. I was trying out test conditions to try to design the best test protocol possible. I was learning about what I can and can not agree to. If I fail the IIG test then the claim is falsified. It really is that good of a test protocol that if I fail I am entirely convinced that the claim is falsified.
 

This entire mess is so heartbreaking. You've got a 26 year old girl, bright and imaginative who has ruined her entire life because she wants to be extra-super-special. Some aspects of this absolutely haunt me - What happened to her to cause such a huge break with reality? Why doesn't she care about her future? What if the primarily negative attention she gets her is the closest she has to real friends? (At least we respond to her silliness instead of brushing it off.)  

I look at people and I see images of tissues and health. And sometimes they correlate with information that I should not have been able to know. The fact that that triggers my curiosity to investigate has not ruined my life. And I meet with a man who suffers from devastating chronic migraines and I design a massage treatment based on how I feel his pressure points, and the man reports that ever since the attempted treatment his migraine condition has improved dramatically and still 3 or 4 months later has had a lasting effect. That does not ruin my life either. I'm not trying to be special, I'm just describing real events that have happened. There is no break with reality, there is the fact that I have had medical perceptions that are the same as reality, and effects in reality from the att. migraine treatment. Of course I care about my future, meanwhile I don't think it should be so bad to investigate unexplainable experiences. That should just show that I am an inquisitive and research-minded individual. And no, the negativity is nothing like friendship to me. I am not here looking for attention, at this point I am just trying to defend myself just in case someone reads your lies about me so that I have given my version of it also.
 

What will she be doing five years from now? No science-related employment would hire someone who thinks "I really, really did!!!!" is adequate proof. (How could they trust her results) No job in the medical field will hire someone who practices unproven diagnosis. (Can you imagine the trouble that would cause?) These days everyone does a basic internet check. Her own website would raise eyebrows, this one dooms her.

Hm... five years from now. Two more years of undergraduate studies, then two years of masters, then five in Ph.D. program. I'll still be in school. A science-related employer will read and realize that I have never insisted that my anecdote of having accurately detected that a left kidney was missing was formal evidence, and see that all I have said about that is that it is something I personally believe to have experienced and that it is grounds for having my paranormal investigation. I am not worried about future employment, I am an excellent science student and future scientist.

So that leaves faith healer. But she doesn't have enough empathy to say the right things. Those who seek out woo are looking for something specific. They are also strangely suspicious in their naivety. One wrong answer and they call fraud and move on. There is always another woo to try, right. So I can not see her getting very far in the woo field. Her attitude would turn people away.

I have plenty of empathy but I will not become a faith healer. I think you are hallucinating.

Can you imagine any fate worse than failed psychic?

If I falsify my paranormal claims I would be proud and it is not a bad fate at all. You'll see.

So, you're saying that you "sense" things nobody else can, don't tell anyone about them, and then confirm them yourself through ordinary means. That doesn't sound just a wee bit, I dunno, like something a person with a fantasy prone personality might do? Think about it - you don't have any evidence except your memory. Every time you do something with witnesses, like with The Study, you don't have the ability. Every time you write things down, like with your Study on Induced Information, you fail. Even your interpretation of your readings with members of F-A-C-T don't match up with what everyone else says happened. Why do you think your abilities fail every time there's objective evidence?

Doesn't this scare you?

As for your ghosts, you claim that your perceptions don't frighten or harm you, yet you just REPEATED a story where that is not true. Listen, young lady, ghosts are not real. Nobody is throwing any plates at anybody. It's fantasy, pure and simple. You're a budding scientist, right? Proving your story to be true would change how we see the world, so do it.

As for the test, what is the date? Why haven't you posted the protocol e-mail from IIG? It's an "open investigation" right? Why are you sitting on this information?
 

Posted By bookitty on 23 Sep 2009 06:56 PM
All these words, all these repetitions. All of it, over and over, and yet nothing is being said. It's still just "I really, really did!!!"

Heartbreaking.

Yes, it is.

Posted By UncaYimmy on 23 Sep 2009 07:04 PM
Farencue - Anita told me last week that she received a protocol from the IIG. See my blog for details. I am wondering why she hasn't posted it.

UncaYimmy - I believe she is lying and that she has not received the protocol from the IIG.  in fact I would bet next weeks wages on it.