UncaYimmy
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 | | 13 Sep 2009 01:22 AM |
| Oh, but Anita is different. Those other people aren't "investigating" their claims scientifically like she is! Let's ignore the fact that she has not accomplished anything that the other woos have not. If you think about it, the other woos are just misguided. They have an excuse.
But Anita is supposedly a skeptic. She used to be a 4.0 student. She's been assisted by countless skeptics and several skeptical organizations for two years now. She's had thousands of posts assisting her. If you want to talk about epic failures, this has got to rank right up there with the best (or would that be worst?). So in that way she is special. She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment.
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desertgal
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| | 13 Sep 2009 07:13 AM |
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Posted By StevenCalder on 12 Sep 2009 01:12 AM
Posted By desertgal on 11 Sep 2009 07:36 PM
As I said:
"I expect that Anita will now try to convince you, over and over again, with the same poor anecdotal evidence, that she does, in fact, have "good reason" (good reason=pretty pictures in her mind) to "suspect" (suspect=believe) that she has the "ability" (ability=self deception) to heal. ...
Are you sure your not a psychic?!
I have no evidence to the contary so therefore it must be true, hail to the new queen of woo!
Bite your tongue!  I thought I might be psychic once, but I actually have had an original thought or two cross my mind, so I'm disqualified. I had a good read through this afternoon and think I killed a part of my brain that I will never get back.
Naw. You'll get it back. It's just sleeping off the boredom.  | | | "The only time you can read the future from cards is when you are holding four aces in a poker game." - Pernell Roberts | |
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VisionFromFeeling
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| | 13 Sep 2009 08:09 AM |
| Posted By Ashles on 12 Sep 2009 03:36 PM
I also find it interesting that Anta chooses as her Avatar an image that is almost the most cliche example of attention seeking you could really think of - the Peacock (or a bird that certainly resembles a Peacock). Actually, I chose the white peacock because I wanted a bright white colored animal or being. I made a web search and that was one of the beautiful pictures that came up. I was not particularly looking for a peacock or any other specific animal. To me it actually signifies spiritual development. White light has a frequency that is higher than that of any of the colors. It has a lot of symbolic significance to me, but attention seeking is not among them. | | | She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment. | |
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VisionFromFeeling
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| | 13 Sep 2009 08:13 AM |
| Posted By UncaYimmy on 12 Sep 2009 05:22 PM
She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment.
I'm sorry, but that's just so funny!  | | | She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment. | |
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StevenCalder
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| | 13 Sep 2009 10:18 AM |
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Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 13 Sep 2009 12:09 AM
Posted By Ashles on 12 Sep 2009 03:36 PM
I also find it interesting that Anta chooses as her Avatar an image that is almost the most cliche example of attention seeking you could really think of - the Peacock (or a bird that certainly resembles a Peacock). Actually, I chose the white peacock because I wanted a bright white colored animal or being. I made a web search and that was one of the beautiful pictures that came up. I was not particularly looking for a peacock or any other specific animal. To me it actually signifies spiritual development. White light has a frequency that is higher than that of any of the colors. It has a lot of symbolic significance to me, but attention seeking is not among them.
Then its just a happy coincidence it matches your online persona so well. Wait... just... a... minute... A... coincidence? Coincidences don't just coincide... Posted By VisionFromFeeling
"...you might have healed in the past (because it coincinded with improvement in the past)..." Right? Quick VFF! to the Woo-Copter!, there must be an elaborate un-fact-supported woo theory to wrap around this coincidence! Perhaps vibrational enegrys draw special star people to avatars which best repesent their outward personalities? Or is that just silly?  | | | |
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bookitty
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| | 13 Sep 2009 10:33 AM |
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Posted By StevenCalder on 13 Sep 2009 02:18 AM
Right?
Quick VFF! to the Woo-Copter!, there must be an elaborate un-fact-supported woo theory to wrap around this coincidence!
Perhaps vibrational enegrys draw special star people to avatars which best repesent their outward personalities?
Or is that just silly?
Steven, you keep cracking me up! You do know that she'll be claiming that very thing in a few weeks. "I saw a picture of a peacock and it resonated with the vibration of my personal energy. This energy also allows me to assign spirit animals to complete strangers! And it cures gout!" | | | |
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StevenCalder
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| | 13 Sep 2009 11:03 AM |
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Posted By bookitty on 13 Sep 2009 02:33 AM
Steven, you keep cracking me up!
You do know that she'll be claiming that very thing in a few weeks. "I saw a picture of a peacock and it resonated with the vibration of my personal energy. This energy also allows me to assign spirit animals to complete strangers! And it cures gout!"
I must admit the "Well good morning, Dr. Mengele!" nearly drowned me in my morning coffee I hereby claim ownership of the 'Resonating Peacock of Personal Energy and Gout'. RPPEG for short. I will be submitting my paper "RPPEG for use in the application of Spirit Animals to complete strangers" for peer review in the comming months. | | | |
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bookitty
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| | 13 Sep 2009 11:47 AM |
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Posted By StevenCalder on 13 Sep 2009 03:03 AM
I hereby claim ownership of the 'Resonating Peacock of Personal Energy and Gout'. RPPEG for short.
I will be submitting my paper "RPPEG for use in the application of Spirit Animals to complete strangers" for peer review in the comming months.
Oh, me! Pick me for your first subject. Tell me, oh guru of RPPEG, what is my vibrating spirit animal? I need an avatar that properly expresses my freedom from gout. | | | |
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catbasket
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| | 13 Sep 2009 04:41 PM |
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Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 13 Sep 2009 12:09 AM
White light has a frequency that is higher than that of any of the colors.
And you claim to be a 'scientist' and to be studying physics? Ever heard of some guy named Newton and his experiments with prisms? Evidently not. It has a lot of symbolic significance to me, but attention seeking is not among them.
Liar - it's all about the attention and your need to feel special. | | | |
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VisionFromFeeling
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| | 13 Sep 2009 09:46 PM |
| For goodness sakes, people. I heard of a man who was desperate for help with migraines and so I knew I had to try. I attempted the treatment and for what ever reason his condition improved dramatically right after. He went from a minimum of 12 migraines a month to having only 2 for the month that followed and another 2 the next month after that, and with shorter duration and less severity each. Of course I want to look into the possibility whether I can cause that change in other people and again. Any volunteers? Skeptics would be ideal.
I'm not doing this for attention. In fact this kind of attention is probably questionable for my career. But how could I not look into the possibility. If I can treat migraines, be it with an actual ability or by being one good transmitter of placebo, what ever it is and how ever it works, if it works it's good. I would then obtain a proper license and treat people with migraines. For their benefit, not mine.
So why not investigate this? Any Skeptics in the NC area with migraines? | | | She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment. | |
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desertgal
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| | 13 Sep 2009 10:41 PM |
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Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 13 Sep 2009 01:46 PM
I would then obtain a proper license and treat people with migraines. For their benefit, not mine.
Oh, shut up about the "proper license" already. There is no such thing for the type of treatment you are proposing.  | | | "The only time you can read the future from cards is when you are holding four aces in a poker game." - Pernell Roberts | |
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bookitty
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| | 13 Sep 2009 10:57 PM |
| Desertgal, that's just beautiful.
And the code red siren sings "meee-me, meee-me"
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StevenCalder
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| | 14 Sep 2009 12:01 AM |
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Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 13 Sep 2009 01:46 PM
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Don't be suprised when people treat you like your talking crap, you've given them no reason not to and every reason too.
No Evidence, Not one scrap.
But bucket loads of unconnected woo!
You also haven't challenged your own assumptions. (Which isn't very sciencetific of you!)
Lets imagine for a second that everything you told us about this man you "healed" is true. I can, just off the top of my head, think of a large number of other explanations which would account for his recovery and would not require you to be a special star person with a resonating peacock.
I mean if a person went onto the internet proclaiming they might have super powers without any evidence and without doing even the most basic of counter research, they'd look quite foolish wouldn't they?
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And as for it maybe being a placebo effect...
Fuck you.
You could atleast have the decency to google migraine...
Migraine is a neurological condition, no amount of positive-thinking cures me. Put a spin on symptoms? maybe. Cure psychosomatic symptoms which are additional to the migraine? sure.
But for god sakes theres a wealth of treatments out there with real science behind it which can have a impact on all of the above.
We don't need space cadets muddying the communication bewteen patient and doctor with their crazy moon treatments.
Do you really, honestly, think your being rational and scientific with your claims? | | | |
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StevenCalder
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| | 14 Sep 2009 12:02 AM |
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Posted By desertgal on 13 Sep 2009 02:41 PM
-Insert Very Funny Image Here-
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| | 14 Sep 2009 12:06 AM |
| "resonating peacock" I love it ! "Now, I'll place my resonating peacock on your head and read the vibrational information on your migraines. Ahhh..yes it has extended it's tail into a fan and I see splotches of black with red swirls! Feel better now?  | | | It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames.
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VisionFromFeeling
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| | 14 Sep 2009 04:54 AM |
| Posted By desertgal http://forums.randi.org/showpost.ph...count=1091
I have successfully battled with schizotypal disorder for nearly 30 years.
Posted By desertgal http://forums.randi.org/showpost.ph...count=1231
I was diagnosed with the disorder before you were born, and I have successfully battled it longer than you have been alive. I've been where you are now. I know, intimately, how real delusions can be...how intoxicating, how much fun, how special they can make one feel.
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VisionFromFeeling
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| | 14 Sep 2009 04:55 AM |
| StevenCalder, what does your avatar say about you? | | | She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment. | |
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VisionFromFeeling
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| | 14 Sep 2009 04:57 AM |
| License: http://www.bmbt.org/
I might have to take classes and take board exams, but the type of "energy treatment" and "massage therapy" I would be treating with can be licensed and allowed. What if I'm effective? Then hopefully some of you out of respect for those who suffer from migraines would let this go and be happy that there is some help for migraine sufferers. It would be a good thing! | | | She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment. | |
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bookitty
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| | 14 Sep 2009 05:00 AM |
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Posted By VisionFromFeeling on 13 Sep 2009 08:54 PM
Posted By desertgal http://forums.randi.org/showpost.ph...count=1091
I have successfully battled with schizotypal disorder for nearly 30 years.
Posted By desertgal http://forums.randi.org/showpost.ph...count=1231
I was diagnosed with the disorder before you were born, and I have successfully battled it longer than you have been alive. I've been where you are now. I know, intimately, how real delusions can be...how intoxicating, how much fun, how special they can make one feel.
Here we have a textbook example of an ad hominem. In Vff's mind, she has revealed *gasp!* some deep dark secret. She now believes she has some sort of power over desertgal. She hopes it will cause pain. (Which really isn't very empathetic and doesn't say much for Vff's claim of heightened empathy with her fellow man. shocking.) For the rest of us this is just another amusingly juvenile attempt to dodge answering the direct questions put forth in this thread. Transparent thinking is damn pathetic. | | | |
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VisionFromFeeling
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| | 14 Sep 2009 05:04 AM |
| You people are pathetic. I have done nothing wrong. What exactly is the problem? That I attempted to treat someone for migraines, and there was incredible improvement in his condition? Call the man! Send me some Skeptics who have migraines! What else could we do about that?
That I claim to have detected that a person was missing a left kidney and have submitted that claim for a paranormal test with the IIG? It is the IIG's turn to reply! We're negotiating the protocol! I've asked several local Skeptical groups for help to arrange a Preliminary test! What else could I possibly do to make progress in this claim?
What exactly is the problem? I have not lied about anything! Tell me what exactly I am supposed to do. Or is this just all about name-calling. | | | She's simultaneously the worst woo and the worst skeptic I've ever seen. That's no small accomplishment. | |
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