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Claims canceling other claims

Last Post 05 Sep 2009 11:50 PM by Ashles. 5 Replies.

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bookitty

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05 Sep 2009 12:29 PM
I am sorry if this has been brought up before. While much of the information on Vff's claims are here, some is on her webpage and some scattered in between her refusals to be tested on JREF. Has anyone else noticed that Vff's claims cancel out some other talent she has claimed to possess? I first noticed this with the psychic photo-diagnosis. If she is holding a photograph, it will have chemical residue from processing the film. Since synesthesia is automatic, involuntary and strong, it would cancel out the perceptions of a person's well being. Many of her claims revolve around color. And yet if you start lining up these colors, they don't match. For example, sodium is a yellow-grey but processed meat which contains quite a lot of sodium is dull purple. I'm sure there are more examples. There is a bad (undisclosed) chemical in processed milk which is blue. (Oxygen is also blue, btw). Although she doesn't come out and say it, it's fairly obvious that she is referring to the hormones found in milk (targets breast tissue, causes cancer). She can't actually identify it. But when it comes to determining male vs female hormones in the urine, she's almost flippant about how easy it is. These are just the obvious ones that jumped out. Since she has pretty much proven herself to be a fraud, I haven't and won't go through every detail looking for more of this. Just found it amusing.

desertgal

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05 Sep 2009 03:26 PM
As well, her claimed ability to perceive medical conditions via photographs was imemdiately questioned, since it didn't jibe with her repeated descriptions of downloading vibrational information. She never satisfactorily explained that contradiction, except to say that she can read photos! She really, really can! I don't know if you've gotten to this part yet, but it gets better. After attempting to 'read' some photos that were posted, Anita altered her claim to specify that she can only accurately 'read' photos in 'real life'. She just can't 'read' photos that are posted on the Internet. There are several other claims where she cancels out her own statements with 'amendments'. Chemical identification, medical diagnosis, telepathy. Most of the time, she seems blithely unaware how much she contradicts herself. Hallmark of a habitual liar: she's told so many lies, she can't keep them straight.

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Akhenaten

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05 Sep 2009 07:09 PM
I vaguely remember asking Anita how she could see through the air if Nitrogen is bright green. The answer was Vibrational Algebra™. It's the convenient answer to most of Anita's paradoxes.

The moving finger writes and having writ, moves on. Nor all thy piety nor wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line. Nor all thy tears wash out a word of it. - from The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, who really should have read the FAQ and learned about the Edit function.

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05 Sep 2009 10:11 PM
Posted By desertgal on 05 Sep 2009 07:26 AM As well, her claimed ability to perceive medical conditions via photographs was imemdiately questioned, since it didn't jibe with her repeated descriptions of downloading vibrational information. She never satisfactorily explained that contradiction, except to say that she can read photos! She really, really can! I don't know if you've gotten to this part yet, but it gets better. After attempting to 'read' some photos that were posted, Anita altered her claim to specify that she can only accurately 'read' photos in 'real life'. She just can't 'read' photos that are posted on the Internet. There are several other claims where she cancels out her own statements with 'amendments'. Chemical identification, medical diagnosis, telepathy. Most of the time, she seems blithely unaware how much she contradicts herself. Hallmark of a habitual liar: she's told so many lies, she can't keep them straight. But she can read the health status of people on TV!

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UncaYimmy

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05 Sep 2009 11:47 PM
I have double-checked her for consistency in the past, like when she claims a number or symbol represents a certain color. However, I haven't really looked specifcally for contradicting claims. Do you have some more examples? Sounds interesting.

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Ashles

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05 Sep 2009 11:50 PM
And I like that, in order to further her fantasy of being some kind of science prodigy, she has described how she sees equations in colours (or whatver it was). But how does this gel with the fact that her vision supposedly allocated colours to chemicals then how are these two (cnceptually massively different) systems not interfering with each other? When she reads equations is she seeing the colours for the equaion or the printed media? Or 'downloaded information' from whoever she loked at last? Or an X-Ray of watever is under the printed media? Or the air? Or Arcturan star juice? Or whatever?

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