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13 Aug 2009 07:46 AM  
Over on the JREF Forums, Anita is discussing her "protocol" for detecting if someone is missing a kidney. Unfortunately, the JREF moderators won't allow people to really get into how ridiculous she is being. I offer this thread for those who want to make points that the JREF won't allow them to make. I'll start.

Anita won't take the test. She will do as she has always done: make excuses, twist things around, delay, and if something ever happens, won't accept the results for what they mean. Just look at the BS she's feeding people about how much time she needs. In the past she claims to only need a few seconds to make a reading - 5 seconds for missing organs.

Now she's claiming she wants, what, 15 or 30 minutes per person? She's so self-centered her response to what a burden this is on volunteers is, "Don't you sit for at least 30 minutes when you are eating a meal, or driving a car, or watching television?" If the person she picks isn't the target, then she says, "I may have the person undergo an ultrasound to check for the number of kidneys and at my own expense." Huh? She also suggested people have numbers written on their bodies in indelible ink.

Who the hell does she think she is? She's expecting everyone to jump through hoops because of what? Seriously, what? She claims to have detected one person missing a kidney, only she never told anybody about it until after that person revealed he was missing a kidney. She was doing a reading on this guy. She was supposed to tell us everything she detected. But she didn't mention the kidney. She said nothing about it until he said something.

This is her sole basis for expecting people to be at her beck and call. How incredibly self centered.

Every time people help her, she either rejects the suggestions outright or changes them so much they are unrecognizable and useless. Why should anyone help her now? Why can't she do a much simpler test and give us something that indicates she is worthy of extra effort?
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13 Aug 2009 08:47 AM  
She got a bit whiny when I attempted to pin her down on just how much time she needed to "read" a test subject.
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13 Aug 2009 08:54 AM  
Did you see her latest where she claims to have set a date? Saying she can come down some weekend during the school year is not setting a date. Is she really that stupid? They told her flat out that she needs to pick a date. If I were the IIG, I wouldn't lift a finger until she showed me her itinerary where she actually booked a plane and hotel.

What does she expect them to do? Ask dozens of people what dates work for them and then bring back those dates to her? Everybody knows full well she's not going to go just any weekend during the year. She has to commit in advance. Ideally she needs to check with her professors regarding exams and find a weekend where she doesn't have a test on Monday morning.

What a bunch of wasted effort for someone who's failed every test she's ever taken of her paranormal claims.
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13 Aug 2009 09:49 AM  
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Posted by the new moderator at JREF Forums

Everyone, please respect that this thread is about the kidney detection test and that this is the test I will have arranged in the near future. All other claims and tests are referred to the General VFF Thread. Thank you Moderators for cleaning up this thread regarding topics, note that I did not report any bickering posts because all comments are welcome, as long as they relate to the topic.


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13 Aug 2009 02:58 PM  
From VFF's OP in the kidney detection thread -
The IIG have suggested that I have a preliminary test before having the official test with them so that I am better prepared for the outcome of their test.
Possible translations of what IIG said: 1. You're gonna fail. 2. She's back! Get rid of her!
I just tried an at-home kidney detection test using a thin bed sheet as the opaque screen. I conclude that I would like for the test to take place without a screen.
Anita, Well there ya go, you've just done a preliminary kidney detection test! You know the conditions you want the test to take place under ... kindly go forth to IIG and arrange a protocol. Not gonna do that though, are you? You wouldn't be getting oh so much attention if it wasn't for The VisionFromFeeling Show over at the JREF forums.
One thing that puzzles me about the 'VFF Preliminary Kidney Detection Test' thread is why it has not been merged with the 'VisionFromFeeling - General discussion thread' which already contains discussion of kidney detection? I wonder if a thread 'VFF - Paperskater's offer of a crushed pill test' would be allowed to stand seperately, or if it would be merged with the general discussion thread? Maybe this quote from (former JREF mod) chillzero is a subtle hint that a seperate thread would be ok (my bold) -
I'd suggest the topic for this thread is clearly the kidney test. Any discussion of drug identification testing or any other test than identifying people with/without kidneys should really be on another thread.
Is starting a new thread re Paperskater's crushed pill test offer a good idea? While I'm reluctant to give Anita yet another stage to perform on ... it might give newcomers to The VFF Show a quick eye-opener as to her standard routine. Thoughts?
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13 Aug 2009 03:07 PM  
Link to Paperskater's test offer - http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4994633#post4994633
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13 Aug 2009 03:56 PM  
D'oh! Just got to JREF FM sub-forum and see Ashles has already had similar thoughts -

So let me ask a question: If I start a completely new thread suggesting a crushed pill protocol as a new experimental protocol fro VFF, is that allowed?


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13 Aug 2009 09:57 PM  
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JPL's wife should bring medical documentation that she has had a kidney removed, otherwise we can simply confirm that she is married to JPL.


WTF?  Science student?   This is part of a "protocol"?  Pathetic³.
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13 Aug 2009 10:26 PM  
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"Well let's just watch. You have my permission to make fun of me when I fail the test."


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14 Aug 2009 02:02 AM  
Posted By Akhenaten on 13 Aug 2009 01:57 PM
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JPL's wife should bring medical documentation that she has had a kidney removed, otherwise we can simply confirm that she is married to JPL.


WTF?  Science student?   This is part of a "protocol"?  Pathetic³.



Oh, Anita won't need to waste time confirming JPL's wife is married to JPL - I would lay a sizeable bet that she has already managed to get a photo of her; JPL is Robert S Lancaster's brother so the family are, to some extent, in the public eye.  If I can find that out in 15 seconds without leaving the JREF forum, Anita can find out a whole lot more if she puts her mind to it.

It's easy to pick someone out of a lineup if you already know who they are.   Surely (don't call me Shirley  ) the IIG will toss this "protocol" before it gets anywhere near a test?
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14 Aug 2009 02:03 AM  
Oh, sorry, I've messed up the quotes, I am a dingbat, and I can't see how to edit. The last two paragraphs are my humble scribblings, not to be confused with Akhenaten's superior work.
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14 Aug 2009 02:33 AM  
Fixed it for you, Agatha. The editor for this software is not as good as the one they use on the JREF. Sorry.
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14 Aug 2009 02:39 AM  
Don't be sorry! I am very grateful, thank you.

Now, I am still picking my jaw up off the floor at Anita's arrogance in demanding GeeMack write a protocol for her.
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14 Aug 2009 03:09 AM  
Posted By Agatha on 13 Aug 2009 06:03 PM

Oh, sorry, I've messed up the quotes, I am a dingbat, and I can't see how to edit. The last two paragraphs are my humble scribblings, not to be confused with Akhenaten's superior work.


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You be doin' fine, Ma'am, and welcome.


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14 Aug 2009 03:43 AM  
Welcome Agatha! May I just say wow, I never knew that JPL is RSL's brother. This should be posted in her kidney detection thread.
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14 Aug 2009 12:38 PM  
Charging $10 to attend the pre-preliminary test! Just to cover costs, of course.

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14 Aug 2009 01:00 PM  
Was that not one of the most ridiculous things she's ever said? Does she seriously think that people are going to pay to attend a test that she's going to fail anyway? What an ego! What's sad is that I am not surprised in the least.

I firmly believe she is mentally ill. You can see these delusions of grandeur and sense of entitlement. You can also see how she doesn't view people as real people. They are just objects to her.
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14 Aug 2009 02:26 PM  
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Charging $10 to attend the pre-preliminary test! Just to cover costs, of course.

Sooo funny, I'm really starting to believe she is from another planet. In her tiny mind she actually thought that we would all be blown away by her grand plans .

"Big plans from an insignificant claimant who only claims to have seen once that a kidney was missing."

A red carpet at the airport, the president of the New York skeptics to greet her Vff dons dark glasses as paparazzi jostle to try and get her picture as she dives into a waiting limo that whisks her off to  a huge convention centre, people queue outside autograph pads in hand. Inside its standing room only , can she do it can she guess its only a one in 10 shot a hush comes over the crowd..........and then she wakes up

Careful not to wet the bed in your excitement sweetypie......







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14 Aug 2009 10:36 PM  
An to top it all off she want her travel expenses paid! She must stay in shape just by lugging her big ego around.
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15 Aug 2009 12:24 AM  
It seems that having a thread remain confined to just a single claim and test has not worked out very well for Anita.

She's much easier to pin down on details when she's deprived of the opportunity to wander off into terra incognita as she is wont to do.

It was a terrific idea to start the dedicated thread and insist that it stay on topic. Congratulations to the OP of that wonderful thread.

Who was it anyway?

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